LOUD MOUSE wrote:Well I'd say you will wear out a nicely made racer.
That engine if a true racer isn't going to last long on the street.
Last I knew starters are not allowed .
If that price for cables seems high you may be out of touch with the cost of any part.
There are many stock CB77 bikes out there and few true racers.
What you suggest is a waste in my opinion. ..............lm
RCP_Espresso wrote:LM, I plan on making it pull double duty, street and track. I am a novice on the track so the added weight of the starter/stator is not going to be the limiting factor on my lap times right now. That said, waking the bike up for the first time will be considerably easier with an electric start. Eventually I'll go back to bump only.
By the way, what's the best place to get throttle/tach/brake cables from? Everywhere I look they're at least $20 each. Is that what they go for these days?
Also, anyone have a starter chain?
CB77 Race Bike
Noted. It would be by no means a daily, I have other bikes to pull that duty. The starter will be removed once it's running regularly.
Honda made a 5 speeder as part of the race kit and Nova in the UK still make one for race or road.
http://www.novaracing.com/ManufacturerHonda.html G
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160 '66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77 '67 S90 '77 CB400F You have a fantastic project with a very well-documented history. I agree with LM that you should preserve/restore it as a race bike. Th eparts in ther eare very special and from the notes it suggests that they have been running into the lubrication limits of the engine.
It would be an interesting project to solve some of the lubrication issues with modern knowledge. G '60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160 '66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77 '67 S90 '77 CB400F
Classic Honda Restorations has good prices on cables, especially if you buy a set. I've gotten several sets from them, and have yet to have a problem with them. I agree that it would be nice to see this bike restored as a race bike rather than converted back to a stock appearance, but in the end, it's your decision what you want to do with it. I'll look around to see if I have a spare starter chain.
Progress:
(I can't seem to get these pictures to auto size... is there a trick to it on this forum or do I need to upload lower resolution images that I can link here?) Today I did some cleaning/wiring/mounting of stuff. Here's where I ended up. http://i.imgur.com/540EV4c.jpg I do have a question regarding the ignition... those two holes closest to the end of the shaft have magnets in them. should I center them on the marker line? http://i.imgur.com/YgmYLxu.jpg Degreased the frame, it had a fair amount of film on it: http://i.imgur.com/lJSOq8J.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nUoquX5.jpg Here's a look at the custom/homemade velocity stacks: http://i.imgur.com/EFAXwVA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QKNt9Kd.jpg In regards to the velocity stacks, I'd like to have some sort of filter over them... or remove them and go with modified air filter elements like this:  anyone have any thoughts on that? Finally, the starter motor and chain. Thanks to another forum member for sending me a chain, they're awfully hard to find... my one issue now is that there's far too much slack in the chain. I'm thinking of putting a spacer or washers between the case and the starter motor to take up some of the slack. It's not going to take much, so I think it will be feasible for now (until get the motor running again and take the starter off). http://i.imgur.com/aQsXP2Y.jpg I mounted the starter solenoid to the battery box. http://i.imgur.com/gg4XcHc.jpg I mounted the starter solenoid to the battery box. http://i.imgur.com/gg4XcHc.jpg My next step is to finish up all the major wiring... I forgot how much of a pain that is, even though everything is color coded it is still mentally exhausting. I also have a starter clutch rebuild kit coming, the one I have looks like it functions, but I may as well while its out. Those three screws holding the cover on are going to be a challenge to get out though, supposedly they're staked but I can't see any evidence of that. After that I'll give the carbs a good cleaning, change the oil, clean out the filter and check the primary chain, check the valves and we should be good to try to get it started. This is going to be 80% track bike. Once the bike is woken up I'll remove the starter and starter solenoid, but leave the charging system on. I found some discrepancies in one of the notebooks, the engine/frame vins were different that that of the bike. This clarifies some of the discrepancies between the notes and the bike, but now means I can't guarantee that it has a 5spd transmission. We'll find out. I'm also looking at doing a duplex chain conversion, and possibly upgrading the oil pump with one of the fancy cappelini ones.
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No doubt you have a great project.
After I open one bike pic and use the forward arrow I get all kinds of krap. Not worth my time. Can't you get it like others do?. ...........lm
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