honda305 Home honda305 Auctions honda305 Gallery honda305 Forum


honda305.com Forum

Login
□ Search
□ FAQ 
□ 
Vintage Honda Owners,
Restorers, Riders and
Admirers

Oil seals HELL

SMBH
honda305.com Member
Posts: 294
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:16 pm
Location: Redditch, England

Post by SMBH » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:38 am

Ok here's some pic's
Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
I am 99.9% sure it is coming from the right hand crank shaft oil seal, now some thing I have noticed is the end float on the crankshaft pulling it in and out is around 1mm only guessing (have no way of measuring it) when the engine is running with the rotor cover removed the one with the 3 screws the rotor magnet moves in and out when the throttle is blipped now that cant be helping the oil seal to hold any oil back, it could be just pumping the oil out moving in and out.

Any idea what is permissible end float is ? I have a feeling there should be no end float, if that's the case then it's another total strip down.
Last edited by SMBH on Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

LOUD MOUSE
honda305.com Member
Posts: 7817
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:23 am
Location: KERRVILLE, TEXAS

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:47 am

You are correct.
No movement at all.
I'd remove the stater and see what is actually moving. ......................lm
SMBH wrote:Ok here's some pic's

<a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/mike5t ... 2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54 ... a/pic2.jpg" border="0" alt="CB77 Pic2 photo pic2.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/mike5t ... 4.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54 ... a/pic4.jpg" border="0" alt="CB77 Starter SPKT photo pic4.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/mike5t ... 5.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54 ... a/pic5.jpg" border="0" alt="CB77 Starter SPKT oilseal photo pic5.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s277.photobucket.com/user/mike5t ... 3.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54 ... a/pic3.jpg" border="0" alt="CB77 Pic 3 photo pic3.jpg"/></a>


I am 99.9% sure it is coming from the right hand crank shaft oil seal, now some thing I have noticed is the end float on the crankshaft pulling it in and out is around 1mm only guessing (have no way of measuring it) when the engine is running with the rotor cover removed the one with the 3 screws the rotor magnet moves in and out when the throttle is blipped now that cant be helping the oil seal to hold any oil back, it could be just pumping the oil out moving in and out.

Any idea what is permissible end float is ? I have a feeling there should be no end float, if that's the case then it's another total strip down.

SMBH
honda305.com Member
Posts: 294
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:16 pm
Location: Redditch, England

Post by SMBH » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:34 am

With all rotor and starter removed the crankshaft end float pushed in and out is around 1mm, so would this contribute to oil leaking from the main large oil seal ?

LOUD MOUSE
honda305.com Member
Posts: 7817
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:23 am
Location: KERRVILLE, TEXAS

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:54 am

The seal in the sprocket doesn't look like any I've ever used.
If the crank moves as you say I think I'd be more concerned with the movement at this time than the oil leak because all bearing are supposed to be centered in the cases with knock pins and the bearings flush to the inter area of the shafts.
If you have movement you need to check the bearing mounts and or races. ......................lm
SMBH wrote:With all rotor and starter removed the crankshaft end float pushed in and out is around 1mm, so would this contribute to oil leaking from the main large oil seal ?

mike in idaho
honda305.com Member
Posts: 411
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:18 pm
Location: orofino, idaho

Post by mike in idaho » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:16 am

Mouse, there shouldn't be any end float with the nut tight on the primary drive sprocket(ball bearing), is that correct?
'65 YG1
'65 CB160
'66 CL160
'66 CL77
'78 XS650
'79 GL1000
'69 T100R
'68 TR6
'69 T120
'72 750 Commando
my company car is a Kenworth

LOUD MOUSE
honda305.com Member
Posts: 7817
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:23 am
Location: KERRVILLE, TEXAS

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:21 am

Correct. ............lm
mike in idaho wrote:Mouse, there shouldn't be any end float with the nut tight on the primary drive sprocket(ball bearing), is that correct?

SMBH
honda305.com Member
Posts: 294
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:16 pm
Location: Redditch, England

Post by SMBH » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:48 pm

Thank you guys, it's out with the spanners again, Ho happy days.

Post Reply




 

CB-77 | CYP-77 | Road Test | Riding Log | Literature | Zen | Marketplace | VJ Survey | Links | Home