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LOUD MOUSE
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:07 pm

I liked the price and ordered a set. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:That looks to be exactly what I need, and doesnt break the bank. Thank you sir.
G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Helicoils are pretty easy to do and the kit comes with the correct sized drill a tap and an insertion tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25pcs-Helicoil- ... SwpDdVcZMj

As for the bore(s) - follow LM's advice or take it to a machine shop and ask them to hone the bores.

G


LOUD MOUSE wrote:A Heli-Coil can fix that problem. ...............lm
Brickyard wrote:Decided to take 2 steps back vs pushing forward because if G, LM or HT had known of these issues, they would've had me fix them.

First: I never cleaned up my cylinder walls. In the right, problematic cylinder, theres a little more going on then I can just ignore. I think the metal bit protruding may be from the bad right piston. I'm going to have these professionally cleaned up, but what do I tell the machinist I need? Keep in mind the new piston and rings are not oversized.

Second: What I thought was a stretching case bolt was actually the threads in the upper case being stripped out. After putting a missing washer on the bolt and attempting to re install the bolt, it spun freely, and I ended up pulling the threading out with the bolt. The little devil on my should is saying "eh, dont worry about it, the starter motor is holding this corner of the cases together." How would you fix?

While I wait for answers, I'm going to get this little guy on the road. The neighbor kids are going to go nuts when its done!

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Post by G-Man » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:17 pm

LM - Those kits are simpler than the genuine Helicoil kits. I have several sizes and they work pretty well.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I liked the price and ordered a set. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:That looks to be exactly what I need, and doesnt break the bank. Thank you sir.
G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Helicoils are pretty easy to do and the kit comes with the correct sized drill a tap and an insertion tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25pcs-Helicoil- ... SwpDdVcZMj

As for the bore(s) - follow LM's advice or take it to a machine shop and ask them to hone the bores.

G


LOUD MOUSE wrote:A Heli-Coil can fix that problem. ...............lm
Brickyard wrote:Decided to take 2 steps back vs pushing forward because if G, LM or HT had known of these issues, they would've had me fix them.

First: I never cleaned up my cylinder walls. In the right, problematic cylinder, theres a little more going on then I can just ignore. I think the metal bit protruding may be from the bad right piston. I'm going to have these professionally cleaned up, but what do I tell the machinist I need? Keep in mind the new piston and rings are not oversized.

Second: What I thought was a stretching case bolt was actually the threads in the upper case being stripped out. After putting a missing washer on the bolt and attempting to re install the bolt, it spun freely, and I ended up pulling the threading out with the bolt. The little devil on my should is saying "eh, dont worry about it, the starter motor is holding this corner of the cases together." How would you fix?

While I wait for answers, I'm going to get this little guy on the road. The neighbor kids are going to go nuts when its done!
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:24 pm

I checked the seller and he doesn't offer any other sizes but I find all sizes (cheap too) by looking through eBay.
I like TIME CERT better and use only them for spark plug thread repair but there is a big difference in cost of the other sizes. ...........................lm


G-Man wrote:LM - Those kits are simpler than the genuine Helicoil kits. I have several sizes and they work pretty well.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I liked the price and ordered a set. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:That looks to be exactly what I need, and doesnt break the bank. Thank you sir.
G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Helicoils are pretty easy to do and the kit comes with the correct sized drill a tap and an insertion tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25pcs-Helicoil- ... SwpDdVcZMj

As for the bore(s) - follow LM's advice or take it to a machine shop and ask them to hone the bores.

G


LOUD MOUSE wrote:A Heli-Coil can fix that problem. ...............lm
Brickyard wrote:Decided to take 2 steps back vs pushing forward because if G, LM or HT had known of these issues, they would've had me fix them.

First: I never cleaned up my cylinder walls. In the right, problematic cylinder, theres a little more going on then I can just ignore. I think the metal bit protruding may be from the bad right piston. I'm going to have these professionally cleaned up, but what do I tell the machinist I need? Keep in mind the new piston and rings are not oversized.

Second: What I thought was a stretching case bolt was actually the threads in the upper case being stripped out. After putting a missing washer on the bolt and attempting to re install the bolt, it spun freely, and I ended up pulling the threading out with the bolt. The little devil on my should is saying "eh, dont worry about it, the starter motor is holding this corner of the cases together." How would you fix?

While I wait for answers, I'm going to get this little guy on the road. The neighbor kids are going to go nuts when its done!

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Post by G-Man » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:34 pm

LM

There is more choice of that style on UK eBay . If you see anything you fancy, I can bring some out on my next US trip.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw= ... c&_sacat=0

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I checked the seller and he doesn't offer any other sizes but I find all sizes (cheap too) by looking through eBay.
I like TIME CERT better and use only them for spark plug thread repair but there is a big difference in cost of the other sizes. ...........................lm


G-Man wrote:LM - Those kits are simpler than the genuine Helicoil kits. I have several sizes and they work pretty well.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I liked the price and ordered a set. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:That looks to be exactly what I need, and doesnt break the bank. Thank you sir.
G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Helicoils are pretty easy to do and the kit comes with the correct sized drill a tap and an insertion tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25pcs-Helicoil- ... SwpDdVcZMj

As for the bore(s) - follow LM's advice or take it to a machine shop and ask them to hone the bores.

G


LOUD MOUSE wrote:A Heli-Coil can fix that problem. ...............lm
Brickyard wrote:Decided to take 2 steps back vs pushing forward because if G, LM or HT had known of these issues, they would've had me fix them.

First: I never cleaned up my cylinder walls. In the right, problematic cylinder, theres a little more going on then I can just ignore. I think the metal bit protruding may be from the bad right piston. I'm going to have these professionally cleaned up, but what do I tell the machinist I need? Keep in mind the new piston and rings are not oversized.

Second: What I thought was a stretching case bolt was actually the threads in the upper case being stripped out. After putting a missing washer on the bolt and attempting to re install the bolt, it spun freely, and I ended up pulling the threading out with the bolt. The little devil on my should is saying "eh, dont worry about it, the starter motor is holding this corner of the cases together." How would you fix?

While I wait for answers, I'm going to get this little guy on the road. The neighbor kids are going to go nuts when its done!
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by Brickyard » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:59 pm

Would've saved $10 on the helicoil buying it online, but impatience got the better of me.

Going to use the 3 stone hone tool on the sleeves since no ones cursed me for bringing it up. Quick back and forward motion, and won't let up off the trigger until the tool is out of the barrel
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Post by G-Man » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:06 pm

You're on a roll!

G

Brickyard wrote:Would've saved $10 on the helicoil buying it online, but impatience got the better of me.

Going to use the 3 stone hone tool on the sleeves since no ones cursed me for bringing it up. Quick back and forward motion, and won't let up off the trigger until the tool is out of the barrel
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:52 pm

Thank you for the offer.
I'm about to order some M12 for spark plug holes and the company I order from has good prices US.
What is the exchange rate at this time "G"?. ...........lm
G-Man wrote:LM

There is more choice of that style on UK eBay . If you see anything you fancy, I can bring some out on my next US trip.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw= ... c&_sacat=0

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I checked the seller and he doesn't offer any other sizes but I find all sizes (cheap too) by looking through eBay.
I like TIME CERT better and use only them for spark plug thread repair but there is a big difference in cost of the other sizes. ...........................lm


G-Man wrote:LM - Those kits are simpler than the genuine Helicoil kits. I have several sizes and they work pretty well.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I liked the price and ordered a set. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:That looks to be exactly what I need, and doesnt break the bank. Thank you sir.
G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Helicoils are pretty easy to do and the kit comes with the correct sized drill a tap and an insertion tool.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/25pcs-Helicoil- ... SwpDdVcZMj

As for the bore(s) - follow LM's advice or take it to a machine shop and ask them to hone the bores.

G


LOUD MOUSE wrote:A Heli-Coil can fix that problem. ...............lm
Brickyard wrote:Decided to take 2 steps back vs pushing forward because if G, LM or HT had known of these issues, they would've had me fix them.

First: I never cleaned up my cylinder walls. In the right, problematic cylinder, theres a little more going on then I can just ignore. I think the metal bit protruding may be from the bad right piston. I'm going to have these professionally cleaned up, but what do I tell the machinist I need? Keep in mind the new piston and rings are not oversized.

Second: What I thought was a stretching case bolt was actually the threads in the upper case being stripped out. After putting a missing washer on the bolt and attempting to re install the bolt, it spun freely, and I ended up pulling the threading out with the bolt. The little devil on my should is saying "eh, dont worry about it, the starter motor is holding this corner of the cases together." How would you fix?

While I wait for answers, I'm going to get this little guy on the road. The neighbor kids are going to go nuts when its done!

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