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Rear wheel alignment mystery...

R100
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Rear wheel alignment mystery...

Post by R100 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:58 pm

At first glance I just thought my rear fender was a little bent, but further investigation shows the rear wheel is offset to the right in relation to the centre line.

First suspect was the wheel spacers. I hope someone can verify they are correct (picture). With the spacer in place, the distance from the rim to the outer edge of the spacer is the same on both sides of the wheel (77-78mm).

On a dead level and flat bench I stood the swingarm up by supporting its pivot bolt on 2 equal steel blocks. I then stood a square up against the swingarm where it pivots and measured the distance from the wheel mounting lugs (pictures). Difference between left and right is slightly more than 5 mm.
I know banged up shocks on rubber bushings aren't true measuring tools, but they [u]both[/u] seem to fall naturally offset from their mounting points on the swingarm.

At this point I suspect the swingarm, but I sure could use your knowledge and help.
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Post by SMBH » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:00 pm

Im no expert but if the chain is in line and you have the correct spacers, then maybe the wheel was not rebuilt with the correct offset.

If some one has a rear wheel without the tyre on it and with the brake plate removed check a straight edge across the wheel (brake side) and measure to the rim but you must bear in mind not all wheel rims are the same.

If front and rear wheels are not in line then handling will be off, how do,s the rear wheel look lined up with the front run a board or some string from front to rear.

Hope this is some help like I say im no expert but my money is the wheel was not built correct, had a old Triumph like that some years ago.

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Post by R100 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:37 pm

SMBH -
The wheel is the original DID and runs fairly true. I don't know what the offset should be. The distance from the rim to the outside edge of the spacer is the same on both sides (about 77 mm), so I believe the tyre is centred between the two arms of the swing arm.
I have had the bike on the road for a bit, up to 80 kph (50 mph) and did not feel any tendency to wander or pull to one side.

Appreciate your thoughts, hope we get a think tank" going on this one.
It's possible finding a good used swing arm that isn't bent might be a good test.
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Post by G-Man » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:19 pm

Make a plumb line by tying a nut to a piece of thin cord and hanging it down from the top shock pivot on each side. That should be a better gauge than the shocks themselves.

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Post by R100 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:25 pm

G-Man wrote:Make a plumb line by tying a nut to a piece of thin cord and hanging it down from the top shock pivot on each side. That should be a better gauge than the shocks themselves.
G
Now I'm embarrassed!
I have had a plumb line in my toolbox for decades. And I have already shimmed up the centre stand so the bike is plumb.
Thanks for waking me up G.

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Post by G-Man » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:37 pm

R100

Glad to be of service. Just sitting here in a lonely hotel room so interested to see the oucome.

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R100 wrote:
G-Man wrote:Make a plumb line by tying a nut to a piece of thin cord and hanging it down from the top shock pivot on each side. That should be a better gauge than the shocks themselves.
G
Now I'm embarrassed!
I have had a plumb line in my toolbox for decades. And I have already shimmed up the centre stand so the bike is plumb.
Thanks for waking me up G.
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by R100 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:40 pm

It will be tomorrow G.
Watching the PanAm games and getting sleepy.
Cheers.

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