Help proving CA160 years

[MotoX109]

Hi - I recently registered a 1966 CA160 in NY. Unfortunately the transferable registration came back and listed the year as 1965 (even though the first model year is 1966). Would any have any nice references stating that the CA160 began in 1966? The State Title Bureau is now being stubborn b/c they say that they have numerous 1965 CA160's registered......ohhhhh DMV

Thanks for the help!

[LOUD MOUSE]

The HONDA I.D. Guide (large book of info.) shows 1966 to 1969. ...........lm

Hi - I recently registered a 1966 CA160 in NY. Unfortunately the transferable registration came back and listed the year as 1965 (even though the first model year is 1966). Would any have any nice references stating that the CA160 began in 1966? The State Title Bureau is now being stubborn b/c they say that they have numerous 1965 CA160's registered......ohhhhh DMV

Thanks for the help!

[LArzfromarz]

I'd guess too that some of those 1965's on the roster are CA95s.
Frame numbers for both the CA95 and CA160 (identical bikes to the uninitiated) are on the lower left frame, stamped into a flat space just below the side cover. Engine number were easier to see.
A first year CA160 should have a frame number of CA160-1xxxxxx for 1966. Since engines are easily swapped the engine number could be anything.
A last year CA95 (1965) should be CA95-5xxxxxx.
And if titled originally (depending on local) it was likely titled in the year sold regardless of frame numbers, so you could have a first year serialed bike (see above) titled in any year after that, but likely showing the correct frame number on the title.
If no title was involved go thru Vermont.
Hope that helps.
Larz

[mike in idaho]

It's recorded as a 1965 because it was first sold/registered in late 1965. The 1965 model year stock of CA95s was probably all sold by late summer/fall that year so the warehouse shipped the new models a little bit early. Pretty common practice in those days.

[LArzfromarz]

Agreed.... "it was likely titled in the year sold regardless of frame numbers" and the 160 is a slightly better bike.
L