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Helping a friend with his 1964 305 Dream

bluej58
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Helping a friend with his 1964 305 Dream

Post by bluej58 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:33 pm

OK , last winter I tore down my Kz1000 that had been sitting for twenty years and replaced all the bearings, hoses rubber parts ect.. and rode the thing all year with no troubles what so ever.

So when a friend asked me if I could get a one owner 64 305 Dream with 14,500 miles on it back on the road after thirty years of sitting thought " piece of cake "
I'm an idiot.

It is nothing like my bike and I am very nervous about doing something wrong.

So my plans are first to clean the carb , replace the hoses and clean all the rust out of the tank ,clean up the point/points, change the oil and see if she will fire up.

That's the easy part .

I have a copy of the Honda 250,300 shop manual but it is more technical data and very vague on something as simple as changing the oil or information on the oil filter.

If there is a better book that I can get my hands on please let me know.

In the mean time can someone shed some light on the oil filter ? I take it that it just gets cleaned out is that right ?

Is there anything that I need to be careful with when taking it out or putting it back in ?

I see that there is a bunch of grease fittings everywhere and I am sure that this bike was taken care of so I don't think that I will have to do much more than clean out the old and add fresh grease.
Even the cables look good.

The tires still hold air , not that I won't be replacing them.
Can you guys recommend a supplier for tubes and tires in the US?

Thank you for reading this and any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

JD

Here she is just before her first bath in thirty years, a dirty bird !
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Post by pknopp » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:48 pm

Does it turn over? If so the odds are good that just doing all the regular items will get it running again. Yes, you just clean the filter out. It's just a centrifugal filter.

Tires are another matter. There isn't a lot of options. I recently saw these. They look interesting and at least period looking but I never saw a price.

http://www.heidenautires.com/vintage-mo ... -tires/k31

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Post by bluej58 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:32 pm

Thanks for the quick response pknopp ,
that reminds me I have to take out the plugs and squirt some Marvels down the holes.

I'll give her a day and I'll let you know, I've been told that she'll kick but I don't want do anything until I've oiled them a bit.

I'll be passing the tire info on to my buddy and he can suffer the sticker shock.

3.00 - 16 M/C 48P TT is the size for both tires ?

How about brake shoes ?

Thanks again

JD

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Getting your Dream on the Road

Post by conbs » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:43 pm

Your "plan" sounds about right. You may need to add to that rebuilding the petcock. Retro Bikes in Port Angeles, WA has both kits (carb, too)and are very reasonable. Getting the bike on the road will tell you if there are other issues that people may have forgotten in the last 30 years.

This website will become your best friend in your effort. Learn to use the search function (up above in the middle). Use different words and combinations of words. Be sure to click on the "posts" icon in the lower left corner. You will have no issues that another Dream owner has not struggled with previously. You will almost certainly find the answers you need here. If not, start a thread.

In addition to the foregoing, I highly recommend Bill Silver's Dream Resto CD. Parts manuals, Shop manuals and of course, Bill's rebuild maunal. LOTS of other interesting information, too.

While you are working on the bike and especially the petcock and carb, block off the crossover tubes so you can take the tank off easily. For riding, keep the gas above the hump in the center to keep from running out. I used some vacuum line from NAPA (1/4"?) for the crossover. Not gas rated, but cheap and looks original - and most importantly, doesn't seep gas. The parts manual says the line from the petcock to the carb is 5mm, but I think it is an odd size like 4.5 or 5.5. Ohio Cycle has the "correct" line but it is not cheap and in my experience starts cracking pretty badly after a couple of months. You only need a short piece. NAPA or a local motorcycle shop might have something that will work if you don't care what it looks like.

Good idea to clean the oil filter. You should probably add it to your initial "plan". Again, use the search function. Don't lose the little pin in the shaft and put it back together in the right sequence of parts, making sure the washer is on the outside, not the case side of the slinger. What ever you find in there will tell a story, too. It will be a giant pain, but there is nothing you can do but just figure out how to get it done.

You will want to put a few squirts of grease in all the fittings. That is, as long as no one has put sealed bearings in the wheels or ??. I put sealed bearings in my wheels last year and afterward realized that I need to come up with some kind of block off.

Tires? Use the search function and you will get alot of ideas. I think Coker has Firestone whitewalls again, but they are not cheap. But, in my mind nothing says "Dream" like fat whitewalls.

Hope this helps. Best wishes on your project.

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Post by pknopp » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:39 pm

The brakes are easily found. They are a little different but easy to replace. The bike really is pretty basic.

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Post by bluej58 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:44 pm

Thank you conbs,

I really appreciate you guys pointing me in the right direction , I will use the search first from now on

You have given me a lot to go on and I think it will be OK now .

The bike is a bit rusty but in pretty decent shape for its age.

The exhaust pipes are in real good shape visually and i think the chrome on the rest of the bike will shine up well too.

I pulled the plugs and added a little Marvels Mystery oil to the pistons .

The plugs are a beautiful light brown color and look new so they will be going back in for lift off.

JD
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Hiedenau Tires

Post by WHonda » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:14 am

They are 70 a piece plus 10 s&h. I just put them on my 64 CA77 this week.

You can get tubes here

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/DR10295
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