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Primary chain rub on top bolt hole boss of left outer cover

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Post by teazer » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:01 pm

jensen wrote:Hi,

The funny thing in the US is that the democrats are on the left side of the political spectrum.
In the Netherlands the left is called party of the labor, or labor party (Pvda).

Democrats are more centered here, or a little off center to the right side.

Jensen
Jensen, That's a good point. Traditionally both parties were slightly one side or teh other of the center because most people straddle that center line and the US is a very conservative country in many way. It has been interesting to see the emergence of a new (non) party the Tea Party which is very conservative and supposedly fits across all political dimensions, and is carefully crafted to lead people to the Republican side of the fence. As a result, the republican Party politics are moving to the right without making that explicit.

They are also using a mix of scare tactics and simple messaging that resonates and sounds logical, but it is neither.

It's a very clever ploy. If it works, the republicans sweep into power and if it doesn't they simply say that the Tea Party is not them and they are not related. My guess is that if it works, we'll see something similar on the left side in 2 years.

Now we return you to regular programming.. primary chains, I think was the subject. :-)

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Post by G-Man » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:02 pm

Nicely put...


that's the sound of a man working on a chain gang .......




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Post by brewsky » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:54 pm

One thing is for sure, this is the muddiest campaign I've ever seen.....just look at the google ad on the bottom of this page for an example......I assume they are tailored for your individual location

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Then click on the video for some entertainment!!!
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Post by jensen » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:44 pm

Hi Dave,

yes we had a nice discussion about politics indeed. What will happen now, since Obama isn't in control anymore, and the FED wants to pumo another 600 billion UDS into the economy ?
Does it create jobs ?, because that is what is needed (from my opinion build here in the Netherlands).

Jensen
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Post by jensen » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:08 pm

Hi,

And now something completely different.

I was curious how to measure the length of the chain on a simple way, so I decided to try a few things.
After testing a few methods, I got a NOS clutch outer, a NOS primary gear and a NOS chain, and measured the max distance between the clutch outer and the gear (see picture).

I have a few NOS chains, and these were the measured distances :

chain 1 : 20,0 mm
chain 2 : 20.0 mm
chain 3 : 20.1 mm
chain 4 : 20.1 mm
chain 5 : 19.9 mm
chain 6 : 19.9 mm
chain 7 : 20.0 mm

Then I measured the distance of used, but "good" chains and found this :

chain 8 : 20.6 mm
chain 9 : 20.4 mm
chain 10 : 20.5 mm
chain 11 : 20.8 mm
chain 12 : 21.0 mm
chain 13 : 21.2 mm

I also measured a few worn chain's (the primary tensioner was not able to keep the chain under "pressure") :

chain 14 : 23,8 mm
chain 15 : 24.1 mm

I don't know if the info is useful for anyone, but it's here. I learned that the measured distance must be smaller then 23.8 mm, but is best at 20.0 mm.

Jensen
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Post by davomoto » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:23 pm

Jensen, where exactly did you take the measurements? This is great info, thanks for posting! The Fed is going to buy up billions of dollars woth of bonds, with the idea of freeing up more money for banks to lend. The problem is, after the last meltdown with the sub prime BS, bank are very picky about whose getting a loan. Only time will tell!

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Post by Snakeoil » Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:52 pm

I thought it was in this thread, but it might have been in one of the threads I found when I searched the subject initially.

I believe it was LM that said he always replaces his clutch basket with the version that has a cush drive included. How do you tell if you have the cush drive basket (or is it the hub?).

Both my '65 clutch and my '67 appear to be the same, except for the keeper wire hole count. I supposed the cush drive cushions could be between the alum basket and the steel plate that is riveted along with the sproket to the basket. But it seems to be an awfully thin space for any kind of cushions.

Are the cush drive clutches obvious to identify?

Thanks,
Rob

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