Starter making noise

[LOUD MOUSE]

Ya may want to get in there and look at the parts.
Could be nothing more than weak/collapsed springs. ............lm

I just listened to your starter sound and I think it's the rollers behind the rotor slipping. .........lm

When my bike is cold the starter makes this noise.
See This video
http://www.flutetears.com/starter.AVI

Now I am ready to fix it.
Question can the starter be removed with out taking of the side cover the kick start and all.
And anyone have an idea as to what I may find.
Thanks
Brad

Mmm ok then looks like I have more work to do then.
That part may have to wait tell I get a replacement assembly that I can service then swap them out.
I wonder how hard thats going to be find LOL.
Thanks for the info

[Wilf]

LM,

I did a complete re-build on my starter clutch 100 miles ago--new rollers, springs, caps and clutch outer--and I have the same sound. That doesn't mean that my rollers aren't slipping, but for sure they are not worn and the springs aren't collapsed.

My unconfirmed hunches include: starter sprocket bushing?, starter sprocket stopper rubbing on the sprocket? and starter motor bearings? I have also noticed the noise when the engine is warm.

I will listen again to the video to see if it sounds like the noise occurs when the starter is working against compression loads.

Wilf

[Wilf]

Brad,

Were the spark plugs tightened in the head when you made the video? I am trying to figure out if the noise only occurs on compression strokes where the load to the starter is heavier.

Wilf

[FluteTears]

Brad,

Were the spark plugs tightened in the head when you made the video? I am trying to figure out if the noise only occurs on compression strokes where the load to the starter is heavier.

Wilf

Yes the plugs are tightened in the head this was a cold start no choke keep in mind that it is in the low 40F now. Read this bike hates cold starts. Also I ride the bike every day LOL
The bike starts just fine but when it hits compression the noise happens and the load to the starter is heavier. This is why I ask the question and as you and others have pointed out the load is a factor being under compression strokes.


I think LM is on the right track of this problem and will address it in such a matter I will report what I find as others seem to have this problem.
Thats what I love about this forum more ideas as to what is the problem will find it!!!

Brad

[e3steve]

Brad, it sounds like mine once did. Does the starter sometimes spin but not turn the engine enough to start it?

Side cover off, stator off, rotor off; clean out the clutch caves, check the 3 cover screws are tight and staked. New rollers, caps & springs. Cheap as chips (that's 'fries' to you guys!) from Western Hills (7, 8 & 26 here) or David Silver Spares. If you're pulling the rotor, then do the lot; it's not worth sodding about with half a job.

[nander]

My starter used to make that noise, and if I remember correctly, seemed to slip as it did so. Then I changed out the rollers, caps and springs -- following e3steve's part numbers, and the problem went away.

However, I will caution you, make sure those 3 screws on the back of the starter clutch are tight. I had one come loose recently and it jammed everything up.

nander

[oilyg]

Hi,
When you take the starter to pieces look and see how the bushing fits on the little sprocket side
on its steel nose.If too worn the starter will tumble a little in its bearings and not turn right.
A kit to repair it is sometimes on eb.On the back side of my rotor the 3 screws called screw flat m6x25 long are tightened and then punched on 2 sides in a little crevice or whatever you want to call it.That is to keep them in place.Maybe a drop of Loctite would help?Haven't tried that tho.
This forum is very helpful to me and I will try to help youall if I can.Keep em running.
oilyg