Noob, just getting started on a 67 CL77

WrenchRust · Post by **WrenchRust** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:05 pm

An up and down kinda day... Quick update before I run to work (I'm cutting it close)

1) Some things just don't occur to me to ask. Like, will a degreaser turn my engine dark gray??? It turns out that Purple Power will in fact, turn your engine dark gray!!! Grrrrr. So my question is, Will bead blasting restore the color??? Please say it will.

2) I've got the transmission figured out. Putting the cotters in the 2nd mainshaft gear holds it there. Spending weeks playing with that thing without those cotters was frustrating. (I had no idea that they held the gear in place because the old cotters were broken into about 15 pieces.) But I've got it figured out now. I have some pics (No time to upload right now... After work) just to make sure everything looks good. I have a few small concerns.

O.K. I gotta run.

Thanks Again,

Joel

Snakeoil · Post by **Snakeoil** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:11 pm

FluteTears wrote:
Snakeoil wrote:A bearing fits on that end. My suggestion would be to take a small fine cut flat file and just lightly smooth those gouges until they are flush with the rest of the area. Don't remove any metal beyond what was raised by the dents. You should be okay.

The cam itself looks pretty ratty. Are those rust pits?
regards,
Rob
Oh My LOL I agree about fine cut flat file but I have a lathe that I would look at spinning it in and use very fine and slow cuttings such as emery cloth sand paper. Them rust pits don't look as bad as the the end if the rockers are not hitting them.

I have a lathe, too FT, but have learned that most folks don't. I'd be willing to bet I could clean off the high spots from those gouges with a flat file and maybe polish with some emery without any machine tools to assist. It's all about feel. It's nice to have machine tools at your disposal, but I think the newbs should learn how to do this stuff with hand tools. Although I will admit that a file in the wrong hands is probably closer to a chain saw.
regards,
Rob

davomoto · Post by **davomoto** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:57 pm

Joel, I had the same experience with power purple years ago when it first came out! Bead blasting will clean it up like new.

FluteTears · Post by **FluteTears** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:01 pm

Snakeoil wrote:
FluteTears wrote:
Snakeoil wrote:A bearing fits on that end. My suggestion would be to take a small fine cut flat file and just lightly smooth those gouges until they are flush with the rest of the area. Don't remove any metal beyond what was raised by the dents. You should be okay.

The cam itself looks pretty ratty. Are those rust pits?
regards,
Rob
Oh My LOL I agree about fine cut flat file but I have a lathe that I would look at spinning it in and use very fine and slow cuttings such as emery cloth sand paper. Them rust pits don't look as bad as the the end if the rockers are not hitting them.
I have a lathe, too FT, but have learned that most folks don't. I'd be willing to bet I could clean off the high spots from those gouges with a flat file and maybe polish with some emery without any machine tools to assist. It's all about feel. It's nice to have machine tools at your disposal, but I think the newbs should learn how to do this stuff with hand tools. Although I will admit that a file in the wrong hands is probably closer to a chain saw.
regards,
Rob

LOL Yes I am with you on this if this is the first time for him them hand tools can get you in a bad place.
Keep in mind I could see me doing that LOL
Not that I have ever done that!!!!!
Brad.

FluteTears · Post by **FluteTears** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:03 pm

davomoto wrote:Joel, I had the same experience with power purple years ago when it first came out! Bead blasting will clean it up like new.

I have had the same your good to go. Do the Bead blasting it will look good after that.
That power purple is in my mind just the first step to the clean up.
Brad

OldStan · Post by **OldStan** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:49 am

I have a lathe, too FT, but have learned that most folks don't. I'd be willing to bet I could clean off the high spots from those gouges with a flat file and maybe polish with some emery without any machine tools to assist. It's all about feel. It's nice to have machine tools at your disposal, but I think the newbs should learn how to do this stuff with hand tools. Although I will admit that a file in the wrong hands is probably closer to a chain saw.
regards,
Rob

I've cleaned many shafts gouged by punches and torches (not uncommon in heavy equipment) with just a file and emery paper. It's just a matter of taking your time and on a shaft this small using a fairly fine file so you don't take too much at a time.

I've found that a lathe in the hands of a newb is far more damaging than a file. Removing too much material with a lathe is more damaging than removing a little too much in a limited area with a file.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:26 am

Question.
What/how did ya do this damage?. ...........lm

WrenchRust wrote:Hey Guys, I haven't had much to report lately but I've found a little bit of time to play around with her again.
Yesterday I got some transmission parts in (Thanks Fast Fred) So I'm going to put that back together tonight and see how much play I've got inside of it.

But right now I'm trying to do some prep work to get the top end and casings ready for bead blasting. Ran into an issue getting the cam out. OK, less an issue with the mechanics of it and more like a generally lack of knowledge on my part. I believe it was Jensen that said, if your only tool is a hammer, the every problem looks like a nail.

I nicked up the end of my cam shaft trying to remove it. You think its still usable?
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