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rustywrench
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Manuals,

Post by rustywrench » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:05 am

As far as I know, Honda published a shop manual for the cl72 and used it all the way through the production years for the cl77 as well. When I started with this hobby/habbit I ordered a reproduction copy from an ebay outlet. Then I bought a clymers manual which turned out to be mostly worthless. Somewhere in my parusing crannies of my shop, I came accross two manuals I had from a cl77 project back in the 70's. A shop and clymer both. The clymer manual was totally different from the one from today and very helpfull. Both these manuals have become my bibles and use them for all my wrenching here. The shop manual can be had readilly so if you would like to scan the clymer, I could send it to you. Let me know, RW

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Post by Snakeoil » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:22 am

If Honda never changed the shop manual from the CL72 model, then I might know where to find one. I think the guy had a Clymer's as well and it could be that old version you speak of, Rusty. I'll check this weekend.

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Post by WrenchRust » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:11 am

I'd very much like to scan anything you guys would be willing to send me... Even if it doesn't have to do with the CL77, if you guys just think it needs to be "out there"

I'm going to post another question, it's a bit off topic (but I can't think of a better place to ask it) but I will post it in the Everything Else area of the forum. If you get a chance to look at it, I'd love the advice.

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Post by WrenchRust » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:11 pm

Hey Guys, I haven't had much to report lately but I've found a little bit of time to play around with her again.
Yesterday I got some transmission parts in (Thanks Fast Fred) So I'm going to put that back together tonight and see how much play I've got inside of it.

But right now I'm trying to do some prep work to get the top end and casings ready for bead blasting. Ran into an issue getting the cam out. OK, less an issue with the mechanics of it and more like a generally lack of knowledge on my part. I believe it was Jensen that said, if your only tool is a hammer, the every problem looks like a nail.

I nicked up the end of my cam shaft trying to remove it. You think its still usable?

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Post by Snakeoil » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:25 pm

A bearing fits on that end. My suggestion would be to take a small fine cut flat file and just lightly smooth those gouges until they are flush with the rest of the area. Don't remove any metal beyond what was raised by the dents. You should be okay.

The cam itself looks pretty ratty. Are those rust pits?
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Rob

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Post by FluteTears » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:41 pm

Snakeoil wrote:A bearing fits on that end. My suggestion would be to take a small fine cut flat file and just lightly smooth those gouges until they are flush with the rest of the area. Don't remove any metal beyond what was raised by the dents. You should be okay.

The cam itself looks pretty ratty. Are those rust pits?
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Rob
Oh My LOL I agree about fine cut flat file but I have a lathe that I would look at spinning it in and use very fine and slow cuttings such as emery cloth sand paper. Them rust pits don't look as bad as the the end if the rockers are not hitting them.
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Post by WrenchRust » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:15 pm

Yeah, I think I'm going to take it to my friend who has a machine shop. And see if he can smooth it out a little for me. Although, it really doesn't look as bad as it does in the picture.

The rust pits on the cam are not were the rocker arms go so hopefully it won't be an issue.

I'm soaking the heads and the cylinder block in parts cleaner overnight (maybe longer) before I take them to be blasted.

And I'm about to put together my transmission with new parts. I'll take pics and let you guys know how that goes.

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