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Snakeoil
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Post by Snakeoil » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:18 pm

Understood Steve. I finally got my pistons free from the jugs (see my post in the engine section with the subject "FOR NOOBS".

I just have to pull the shift drum from the upper case. It it a little stiff and probably rusted. But I'll free it up and then see if I cannot put the tranny together and make a short vid on how a tranny works. There is a guy on the Triumphrat vintage forum that makes videos for just about every damn maintenance and repair process on a Triumph. Guy's vids have helps a ton of new owners of vintage Triumphs. His alias is Plewsy. His vids on on YouTube. He's a Brit and has a accent so thick you could cut it with a knife.

WR, as for making fun of you, it's too easy now. You are a noob. Making mistakes and not knowing everything is normal. It's when you get some experience under your belt and make a dumb mistake that you'll get your chops busted. The older you get, the worst it gets. I kinda like it.

Thanks for making that .pdf for me. But you are really making it for the forum. Now we'll have a CL77 parts manual that everyone can download. Not sure if this site had the ability to put here for downloading. If not, we'll find a place for it somewhere. Probably will send a copy to Rivet Restorations and let them post it on their site. I told him if I found one, I'd send it to him. I'll make sure you and Mom get credit for the find a PDF.
Best regards,
Rob

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Post by Snakeoil » Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:10 am

You're gonna have to wait on that video, WR. I went thru 4 phillips tips on my impact driver yesterday trying to get the shift drum retainling plate loose. That including using head on the case. So, the two screws are presently soaking in PB Blaster and I won't be back up there for 2 weeks. I want to try to get them out by unscrewing before I drill out the heads.

Fortunately, I can keep destroying tips and Harbor Freight keeps giving me new impact driver kits. If they ever go out of business, it might be partially my fault.

regards,
Rob

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Post by davomoto » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:20 pm

Rob, put only the bit in the screw head, and give it a sharp blow with a hammer, a real hammer, not a dead blow or rubber mallet. I do this before trying to break all phillips head screws loose, it saves a lot of time replcing bits, and drilling out screws.
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Post by Snakeoil » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:54 am

Thanks Dave. I'll give that a try. I suspect that this being the side that saw water, the Alum oxide in the threads is really bad. And there are no glide properties to Alum Oxide, that's for sure.

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Rob

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Post by brewsky » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:08 pm

davomoto wrote:Rob, put only the bit in the screw head, and give it a sharp blow with a hammer, a real hammer, not a dead blow or rubber mallet. I do this before trying to break all phillips head screws loose, it saves a lot of time replcing bits, and drilling out screws.
That does work.

I also dip the tip of a T handle phillips in valve grinding compound and tap the driver in the screw before giving a quick twist.
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Post by Snakeoil » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:15 am

My problem is not the bit slipping. I'm using an impact driver. The screws are so stuck that I've twisted the tip off 4 bits so far. Screw heads are still perfect.

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Rob

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Post by WrenchRust » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:42 am

Rob, Wow. That sounds like it sucks.

I just worked 7 shifts at work in the days 4 days but now I get the next four days off. I got the pistons from LM a couple days ago so I'm going to drop the cylinders off at the machine shop. Is there anything I need to tell him before he bores my cylinders? How much clearance? Etc? What about valve seats? I think I read 45 degrees but I was look at the grinders that came with the original "special tools" from Honda for the 305's and those grinders were 90, 120 and 30 degree angles.

oh, does anyone have any pictures of what transmission looks like in each gear?

Thanks,

Joel

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