Squealing noise around stator and slow return to idles

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:09 pm

G,

The tested ring is new and tested at the bottom of the cylinder. Here are the results of all 3 rings at 1/4 inch from the top:

Cylinder 1:

Oil ring: .026 or .65mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .024 or .60mm

Cylinder 2:

Oil ring: .028 or .70mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .026 or .65mm

Old rings, cylinder 2:

Oil ring: .028 or .70mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .026 or .65mm

G-Man wrote:Are you using a new ring or a worn one?

Those figures are 0.15-0.35mm with a repair limit of 0.8mm

Max wear is normally at the top. Try the bottom and compare the two.

G

Brickyard wrote:Honda says ".15 - .35" for "second top ring" gap!?!? I'm obviously reading wrong, but if not, I'm screwed! My left good cylinder, after deglazing, peaked at .020 or .5mm gap size. Both gaps were measured with the top ring.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:18 pm

Did I miss the bore size?. ......lm

Brickyard wrote:G,

The tested ring is new and tested at the bottom of the cylinder. Here are the results of all 3 rings at 1/4 inch from the top:

Cylinder 1:

Oil ring: .026 or .65mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .024 or .60mm

Cylinder 2:

Oil ring: .028 or .70mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .026 or .65mm

Old rings, cylinder 2:

Oil ring: .028 or .70mm
Second ring: .026 or .65mm
Top ring: .026 or .65mm

G-Man wrote:Are you using a new ring or a worn one?

Those figures are 0.15-0.35mm with a repair limit of 0.8mm

Max wear is normally at the top. Try the bottom and compare the two.

G

Brickyard wrote:Honda says ".15 - .35" for "second top ring" gap!?!? I'm obviously reading wrong, but if not, I'm screwed! My left good cylinder, after deglazing, peaked at .020 or .5mm gap size. Both gaps were measured with the top ring.

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:34 pm

Before I get flamed, the furthest I've gone with these sleeves is deglaze them. The second time I've done it was 2 hours ago.

The bore for both sleeves, and with my cheap harbor freight digital caliper is 2.36in or 60mm.

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:41 pm

Oh boy. Honda says they need to be 53.99-54.00mm. I'm 6mm off.

Well, since the new Pistons were $300, Anyone have 54mm cylinder sleeves?

FML

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:44 pm

Are you talking 250CC?. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:Oh boy. Honda says they need to be 53.99-54.00mm. I'm 6mm off.

Well, since the new Pistons were $300, Anyone have 54mm cylinder sleeves?

FML

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:56 pm

Whoops, I was looking at the wrong specs. Here's what I have and here's what Honda says about what I have...

Just as I started to feel smart, I see the * in the repair manual and have no idea what it means
(And then i read the top of the manual page)

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:02 pm

I had to ask as you showed 60mm which is STD. 305 as I recall. .......:-). .....lm

Brickyard wrote:Whoops, I was looking at the wrong specs. Here's what I have and here's what Honda says about what I have...

Just as I started to feel smart, I see the * in the repair manual and have no idea what it means
(And then i read the top of the manual page)