Sidestand for "Ugly Betty"?

[Wilf]

When I first laid eyes on my 1963 Super Hawk she was without a center stand and was leaning on a side-stand with a Stanley tape measure between the side stand and the floor. I thought that was a bid odd but I took delivery anyway, and when I stood her up at home I had to use a 2 x 4 on the flat underneath the stand just to keep me from worrying it would tip over.

When I stripped her down to the frame I noticed that the rear-most center stand mount hole on the left side of the frame was elongated and I assumed it was from wear. I had the hole in the frame welded and re-drilled to make for a nice fit for the center stand bolt. All was well with the center stand but, for sheer convenience, I wanted to re-mount the side stand.

When I tried re-mounting it a year ago, I noticed three things:

-the holes on the side-stand bracket no longer mated with the holes on the frame, with the rear-most hole being out of line

-when on the side stand, the lean on the bike seemed too much--a 2 x 4 on the flat was needed to make it look safe

-there was a lot of slack at the side stand pivot bolt hole

In the year since, I have had the pivot hole in the bracket welded and drilled to make for a nice, tight fit with the pivot bolt. That should reduce the lean somewhat, but not the entire 1 1/2" of a 2 x 4.

I wonder now whether a previous owner had elongated the frame hole to allow the side stand to fit, and I wonder if it is the correct side stand at all! Was it made for a CYP with 17" wheels?

I have attached photos of the side stand hoping that someone might be able to identify it as a proper fit for my CB77. The bracket is stamped, "MADE IN JAPAN" and all parts are chrome plated.

I have considered getting the leg lengthened and grinding out the hole in the frame to make it work but I really don't want to be trying to adapt a side stand that was not made for my frame.

Thanks for enduring the history.

Wilf

[cyclon36]

I think that's an aftermarket stand. There was some discussion about the sides stands in this thread: http://www.honda305.com/forums/viewtopi ... 0&start=40

While you're welding and reinforcing, it seems as though you should reinforce the bracket it mounts to as they often break.

[Wilf]

Thanks, cyclon,

I think most side stands were aftermarket. I guess my real question is whether this was made for a CB77 or for a bike with smaller wheels. Can anyone tell from the length?

Wilf

[cyclon36]

Thanks, cyclon,

I think most side stands were aftermarket. I guess my real question is whether this was made for a CB77 or for a bike with smaller wheels. Can anyone tell from the length?

Wilf

I haven't looked at my bike in some time and just noticed I'm in the same boat as you. The bad thing is, I had an original side stand on one of my parts bikes that I sold this summer.

I know what you mean about the bike leaning over too much. I noticed the same thing on mine. I wonder if there is a current aftermarket stand that would fit properly.

[davomoto]

Thanks, cyclon,

I think most side stands were aftermarket. I guess my real question is whether this was made for a CB77 or for a bike with smaller wheels. Can anyone tell from the length?

Wilf

The CYPs also had 18 inch wheels. My guess is that the stand has bent over time.

Davo

[Wilf]

Thanks, Davo. I'll attach the stand to a piece of wood perpendicular to the floor and then check the angle of the leg to see if the bracket is indeed bent (I know the leg is not bent).

Wilf