Ball Bearing size for Clutch Lifter Assembly

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:20 am

I've had it happen here.
Have you put a steering ball in there and tried it?. ........................lm

48lesco wrote:The wrong ball size will do nothing but throw off the adjustment. I'd check these items first:

Stock springs in the clutch?
Clean and lube the lever
Correct part number OEM cable, cleaned, routed and lubricated properly
Clutch actuator cleaned and lubricated
Clutch adjusted with the 5/16 ball - try with both cable adjusters screwed all the way in.
Engine warm and running

The pull will be a little harder than a modern bike, but I've never found it to be an issue, and I'm no superhuman... Good luck
-48

djbrown · Post by **djbrown** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:29 am

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Come come now.
Pay attention!. ...:-). ........lm

I remembered to take the pictures last night. Hope i am doing this correctly.

djbrown · Post by **djbrown** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:07 am

48lesco wrote:The wrong ball size will do nothing but throw off the adjustment. I'd check these items first:

Stock springs in the clutch?
Clean and lube the lever
Correct part number OEM cable, cleaned, routed and lubricated properly
Clutch actuator cleaned and lubricated
Clutch adjusted with the 5/16 ball - try with both cable adjusters screwed all the way in.
Engine warm and running

The pull will be a little harder than a modern bike, but I've never found it to be an issue, and I'm no superhuman... Good luck
-48

I don't know if the springs/clutch are stock but I assume so. All the rest has been done and there was improvement but my 1970 CL450 has a very easy pull compared to this. But now it's pushed my curiosity too far and I have to see the effect of the test. I can't stop this. Give me two weeks when I can get back to this and I will let you all know what I find out.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:31 am

Good on ya.
Great pics.
The engine is no doubt HONDA however I suspect the frame is a replacement.
Why.
Well HONDA painted all frames then stamped the numbers through the paint.
From what I see there is bare metal at the number location. (no sign of paint around the numbers which don't show any sanding after they were stamped.
Not saying I can't be wrong on this but that is what I see..................................lm

djbrown wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:Come come now.
Pay attention!. ...:-). ........lm

I remembered to take the pictures last night. Hope i am doing this correctly.

jensey · Post by **jensey** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:08 pm

I agree, replaced frame.

G-Man · Post by **G-Man** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:13 pm

Does that make mine just a little bit rarer, now? :-)

G

djbrown · Post by **djbrown** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:10 am

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Good on ya.
Great pics.
The engine is no doubt HONDA however I suspect the frame is a replacement.
Why.
Well HONDA painted all frames then stamped the numbers through the paint.
From what I see there is bare metal at the number location. (no sign of paint around the numbers which don't show any sanding after they were stamped.
Not saying I can't be wrong on this but that is what I see..................................lm

LM - Bummer, I hope you're not right about the frame but here's what I see on my CB77.
- Left side of the head tube - You are correct, the frame is bare metal where the frame number is stamped. There is no residual black paint, not even down in the numbers.
- Right side of head tube - Matching flat area on the right side of the head-tube is painted but has no numbers.
- My CB77 did not come with a title just the sales receipt for my sale and the receipt from the previous sale. The gentleman I purchased from had the bike only a few months.He purchased the bike from a guy in Boulevard, CA (east of San Diego on the border with Mexico). I think he said the guy was a pig farmer, Vietnam Vet and an HD collector. The Vietnam Vet and his father had restored the bike back in 1985 with the intention that his father would ride it. Right around the time they were completing the project the father had a heart attack, he survived but decided it was best not to ride motorcycles anymore, so the bike sat in his garage until he passed away in 2003. The son then retrieved the bike and brought it to his own garage where it sat until Late 2012 when he sold it. I heard the Vietnam Vet and his father had purchased the bike from someone in Nevada and that is as far as I can go back.

How can I determine if my frame is an authentic Honda or not? I searched for reproduction CB77 frames and did not find anything. Any help would be appreciated.