Squealing noise around stator and slow return to idles

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:27 pm

Tim had me call WISECO technical division. They said silver/copper ring up top, black as second.

Good thing I called.

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Let us know what he says. . .............lm

Brickyard wrote:Will do.

I will hold off installing the top end until then.

LOUD MOUSE wrote:You may want to ask Tim how they install. ..........lm

Brickyard wrote:May someone please verify my piston ring setup. There's no clear direction to which ring goes where. I placed the black ring up top, copper/steel ring as second, only because my bad Pistons had a similar set up, except the copper/steel ring is black/steel on the old piston. There are no noticeable bevels in either ring. Thanks in advance.

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:30 pm

Yes, along with the oil pump.

G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Just use sparingly and keep it out of those oil galleries. Did you clean the oil filter after finding all that muck in the oilways?

G

Brickyard wrote:At this point I'm pretty nervous as this is the first time I've split the cases and put them back together. The worry of "maybe I forgot something" is hard to overcome, but I checked and checked again. Bill Silver said an alternative to Hondabond is this permatex ultimate gasket maker; it's what I have, so it's what I'll use...

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:20 pm

The pump has 2 gaskets and doesn't require sealant.
Of course that's always a matter of choice. ...........lm

Brickyard wrote:Yes, along with the oil pump.

G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Just use sparingly and keep it out of those oil galleries. Did you clean the oil filter after finding all that muck in the oilways?

G

Brickyard wrote:At this point I'm pretty nervous as this is the first time I've split the cases and put them back together. The worry of "maybe I forgot something" is hard to overcome, but I checked and checked again. Bill Silver said an alternative to Hondabond is this permatex ultimate gasket maker; it's what I have, so it's what I'll use...

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:36 pm

LM, i planned on using sealant only on the case mating surfaces.

I havent seen thread locker in Bill Silver's book, but then again I think it was written 22 years ago.

What do you suggest?

LOUD MOUSE wrote:The pump has 2 gaskets and doesn't require sealant.
Of course that's always a matter of choice. ...........lm

Brickyard wrote:Yes, along with the oil pump.

G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Just use sparingly and keep it out of those oil galleries. Did you clean the oil filter after finding all that muck in the oilways?

G

Brickyard wrote:At this point I'm pretty nervous as this is the first time I've split the cases and put them back together. The worry of "maybe I forgot something" is hard to overcome, but I checked and checked again. Bill Silver said an alternative to Hondabond is this permatex ultimate gasket maker; it's what I have, so it's what I'll use...

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:43 pm

I agree with that for sure.
I admit there are some things I'm ignorant about so "Thread Locker"?
Do you possibly mean Lock Tite? .......................lm

Brickyard wrote:LM, i planned on using sealant only on the case mating surfaces.

I havent seen thread locker in Bill Silver's book, but then again I think it was written 22 years ago.

What do you suggest?

LOUD MOUSE wrote:The pump has 2 gaskets and doesn't require sealant.
Of course that's always a matter of choice. ...........lm

Brickyard wrote:Yes, along with the oil pump.

G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Just use sparingly and keep it out of those oil galleries. Did you clean the oil filter after finding all that muck in the oilways?

G

Brickyard wrote:At this point I'm pretty nervous as this is the first time I've split the cases and put them back together. The worry of "maybe I forgot something" is hard to overcome, but I checked and checked again. Bill Silver said an alternative to Hondabond is this permatex ultimate gasket maker; it's what I have, so it's what I'll use...

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:26 pm

Yep.

LOUD MOUSE wrote:I agree with that for sure.
I admit there are some things I'm ignorant about so "Thread Locker"?
Do you possibly mean Lock Tite? .......................lm

Brickyard wrote:LM, i planned on using sealant only on the case mating surfaces.

I havent seen thread locker in Bill Silver's book, but then again I think it was written 22 years ago.

What do you suggest?

LOUD MOUSE wrote:The pump has 2 gaskets and doesn't require sealant.
Of course that's always a matter of choice. ...........lm

Brickyard wrote:Yes, along with the oil pump.

G-Man wrote:Brickyard

Just use sparingly and keep it out of those oil galleries. Did you clean the oil filter after finding all that muck in the oilways?

G

Brickyard wrote:At this point I'm pretty nervous as this is the first time I've split the cases and put them back together. The worry of "maybe I forgot something" is hard to overcome, but I checked and checked again. Bill Silver said an alternative to Hondabond is this permatex ultimate gasket maker; it's what I have, so it's what I'll use...

Brickyard · Post by **Brickyard** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:44 pm

Used a rubber glove and did my best to evenly apply sealant to mating surfaces as LM suggested in the past, but stayed away from the crescent shaped oil port up front.

Torqued 14mm nuts to 15 ft./lbs, but when i attempted to do the same for the 10mm nuts/bolts, i backed off after hearing a couple studs stretch.

Should these 10mm bolts/nuts be torqued down to 15ft./lbs, or should they be "snug?'