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rpr851r
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Post by rpr851r » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:14 pm

I did some more investigation tonight and the forks appear to be straight and the caps I have do go over the top of the fork covers.

I have added a couple more pictures below. In the first picture the bridge is setting nicely on the locknut and the fork covers but without the fork caps in place. The second picture shows the fork caps I have. From left to right the first cap is an old one with the rubber, the second item is the rubber removed from an old cap, and the last item is the new cap. I assume that the rubber must be used with the new cap or the fork covers will rattle. It appears that there is not enough room to get the cap in place with the rubber. The thickness of the rubber cushion and cap is about .1”.

I tried to “force” things but it’s pretty clear that it isn’t a good idea. I also checked to see if there was something missing from the bottom steering stem bearing stack. It was hard for me to tell if item 10 from the parts book photo below was in place. There was definitely a washer but it was pretty thin. Can anyone tell me the approximate thickness of item 10. If it was a thick washer then it’s possible that it is missing and causing the issue. Also, can anyone tell me if item 19 goes between the fork bridge and item 8. If it does then that would solve my problem also.

I am open to any other ideas at this point. My last resort will be to make a nice shim to put between the bridge and the lock ring (item 8) and get on with life but it’s going to bug me that it isn’t right
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Bridge sitting nicely on fork covers and lock nut but with out caps
Bridge sitting nicely on fork covers and lock nut but with out caps

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Post by davomoto » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:34 pm

I can't remember if my 67 had te rubbers or not, it's beenmany bikes since I restored it! I'll have a peek at it tonight. 10 is indeed a washer that goes under the bearing race. I don't think it's thick enough to cause the clearance issue that you have. I'm leaning towards the rubbers not belonging.

Davo

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Post by rpr851r » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:50 pm

After many hours of zooming in on every scrambler I could find a picture of I decided everything was in the right places and accounted for so I went for it again. I dropped the forks down so they were just below the fork ears and cinched down the clamps on the triple-tree. I then put the caps w/rubbers on, and put the bridge on top and cranked the top fork bolts down to compress the rubber and pull the forks in to position. The bridge settled into place and all looks good. I don't know if that's the right way but it looks and feels good so it’s done.
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I do have one lingering question on the forks. My bike is a 1967 (by wiring harness tag). Can someone confirm that it did not come with clamps/retainers for the fork boots?

Thank you to everyone for your input.
Rich

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:35 pm

Ya didn't give the frame number and if as ya say "it's a actual 1967" it didn't have the gator clamps. .............lm
rpr851r wrote:After many hours of zooming in on every scrambler I could find a picture of I decided everything was in the right places and accounted for so I went for it again. I dropped the forks down so they were just below the fork ears and cinched down the clamps on the triple-tree. I then put the caps w/rubbers on, and put the bridge on top and cranked the top fork bolts down to compress the rubber and pull the forks in to position. The bridge settled into place and all looks good. I don't know if that's the right way but it looks and feels good so it’s done.
C
I do have one lingering question on the forks. My bike is a 1967 (by wiring harness tag). Can someone confirm that it did not come with clamps/retainers for the fork boots?

Thank you to everyone for your input.
Rich

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