Why have I lose Center Stand bolts twice?

mobilyte · Post by **mobilyte** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:53 pm

also, make sure you're using a spring washer along with the center stand mouting bolt/nut

akpasta · Post by **akpasta** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:11 pm

Thank you! That helps a lot. Now I understand why there's that extra un-threaded area after the shoulder but before the threads. I figured a washer may go there. Thanks a lot for those images!

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:03 pm

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akpasta wrote:Thank you! That helps a lot. Now I understand why there's that extra un-threaded area after the shoulder but before the threads. I figured a washer may go there. Thanks a lot for those images!

akpasta · Post by **akpasta** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:37 pm

I was at the hardware store picking up cotter pins for my shoulder bolts and I saw that the store had a selection of hitch bolts, which are basically like shoulder bolts but no threads, all shoulder (if you can visualize). There are holes down the bolt for R-clips. Bolts were thick/strong, and the R-clips were thick too.

Has anyone ever tried using these? I would imagine advantages would be 1. no chance of a nut backing off the bolt and 2. you don't squeeze the stand and frame together by torquing down a nut and bolt, and the center stand might move more freely.

I might buy some to experiment.

cknight · Post by **cknight** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:09 pm

You really need the shoulder bolts. The holes in the kickstand (for the shoulder) are larger than the ones in the frame. The bolts then need to be securely tightened to the frame to prevent ovalling the holes in the frame, which can occur fairly rapidly if the bolts aren't tight. As mentioned before, the shoulder on the bolt should be about 1mm wider than the bosses on each side of the stand, so there should not be any bind. Also, use a good high-pressure chassis grease on the bolts and stand. Regards, Chase

akpasta · Post by **akpasta** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:17 pm

There's the missing piece. Having not rebuilt a frame from scratch, I didn't know the holes were different sizes, but that makes sense. Now I understand the mechanics of it. Ya, hitch bolts wouldn't work.

akpasta · Post by **akpasta** » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:50 am

Shoulder bolt in, nut tightened down with a spring washer, loctite and cotter pin. That sucker is in there good, and it isn't coming out.