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Please I.D. this muffler

LOUD MOUSE
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Re: Side by side comparison

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:27 pm

The one on the right was once a "ONE PIECE" muffler. That is the head pipe was attached to the muffler with a crimp ring sort of affair. I'd say someone has removed the crimp ring and now ya have just the muffler. .................lm

Loudo wrote:Thanks for the comments, fellas...I've taken this photo of the "old" muffler alongside the "new." By looking at the parts diagram it appears that the bracket (which I don't yet have) takes the place of both the upper and lower connection to the frame, is that correct?

I also note that my old muffler is simply slipped on to the header pipe and has a small rubber gasket ring that fits in a groove at the mating end. This mating end is a nice looking piece of fabrication, whereas the new muffler terminates in an ugly welded flange. Do I need those "socks" you speak of, e3steve? Have the new mufflers been bodged up in some way or do I simply need something called "muffler packing" in the parts diagram?
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Post by e3steve » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:43 am

By looking at the parts diagram it appears that the bracket (which I don't yet have) takes the place of both the upper and lower connection to the frame, is that correct?
Yes. I have that type too.

Ed's in-depth knowledege has come up with the answer, as usual; if the mufflers are in good order it may be worth having header pipes welded back in place and getting the whole sheboodle rechromed. If it's done right you could end up with AM exhaust systems that fit!

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Considering all this...

Post by Loudo » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:04 pm

...is it possible to simply adapt these mufflers to the existing header pipes using a couple of these items on eBay (picture attached)? It looks like the thick rubber lip around the edge of the gasket would hide the ugly edge of the muffler pipe at the header connection.

I'd like to use the better mufflers, but the existing mufflers will work OK for awhile. A few small holes in the bottom but generally they are not in too bad of shape.
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LOUD MOUSE
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Re: Considering all this...

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:01 pm

Simple way to test your idea is to slide the header pipe into the muffler and see how much area is left for the rubber to fit into. ...............lm

Loudo wrote:...is it possible to simply adapt these mufflers to the existing header pipes using a couple of these items on eBay (picture attached)? It looks like the thick rubber lip around the edge of the gasket would hide the ugly edge of the muffler pipe at the header connection.

I'd like to use the better mufflers, but the existing mufflers will work OK for awhile. A few small holes in the bottom but generally they are not in too bad of shape.
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Post by e3steve » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:31 am

Ed's absolutely right, Neil. And yes, those are the 'socks'.

Glad the mirrors turned out ok!

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