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First start with major oil leakage

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LOUD MOUSE
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:16 pm

G I spotted these as race cams due to the machined sides and you can see the left side has quite some lift and duration. ....................lm
apeonwheels wrote:I tried to tap it back after loosening the nut and unwedging the bolt. It moved a little bit but not enough, I was hitting it hard though. Still there is more than half a mm difference. I checked out the pics I made when I assembled the head, can`t see any obvious misalingment. I wonder I should take off the head cover and loosen the big nut to deliberate the other half of the camshaft. Is that doable leaving the motor in the frame?

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Post by apeonwheels » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:31 am

Well, either with race or stock cams, it is running without leaking oil. My new problem is a strong smoking that I expected to disappear after a couple of mins running but it didn`t. The rings are supposed to be sealing, they looked new when I assembled them in. Since these engines don`t have valve seals, they should be ok, too. Any guess where the smoke is coming from? Another, perhaps related question: where is the breather pipe on the cylinder cover supposed to be connected to? I couldn`t find any inlet on the air filter.

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Post by OldScrambler » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:35 pm

Great pics................Good on You for getting it running. The top breather-tube trails down the cylinder between the carbs and across the valley cover..........then down below the swingarm to atmosphere.

Pistons.......a one-over is 0.25mm........hardly detectable in a pic. Your pistons resemble the 12-over (3mm) sitting on my shelf in bored cylinders. You can go more than 1 to 1.25mm over-size with the stock headgasket. The largest pistons require a custom head-gasket. Maybe your camera exaggerates a few details.

Smoke........white or black? Immediate on start-up? One cylinder or both? Any change when riding under load?

Check you plugs...........and carry spares until you get it sorted.
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Post by apeonwheels » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:08 am

Hi Oldsrambler, thanks for your reply. I don`t remember the size of the pistons because I put the engine together about two years ago. But I think it wasn`t that large, it was the 1st or 2nd oversize. The smoke was white, but fortunately it got better the weekend when i let the engine run longer, it`s almost smokeless now :) probably the rings needed more time to wear in. The plugs: one is covered with soot, the other is wet from fuel. For some reason the mix is super rich, although I set everything for specs. I pulled apart the carbs and now I`m trying ti figure out what is the reason for this rich mixture. My guess is the aftermarket rebuild kit, which is such a good quality, made in Japan of course, that the float bowl gasket got swollen when it met the fuel for the first time, so now I need another pair that is fuel resistant. Another idea is that I left the carbs in cleaner for too long and it dissolved the material of the carbs as well not just the dirt.

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Post by OldScrambler » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:55 pm

Better to be rich than lean..............Check the pilot jets...............the mains don't really get used until mid-throttle under load.

Larger pistons tend to increase the fill-rate (flow) and also have a slightly positive compression gain. Getting the correct bowl-gaskets will help...........but you also may have slightly too much fuel in the bowls.........so check the float levels. If you are tuning the bike on the center-stand, you may find an improvement when your sitting on the bike with the rear wheel on pavement due to the reduced angle of the carbs. I like to do the final air-screw adjustment while sitting on the bike.

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:36 pm

So far I have yet to find "fuel resistant" bowl gaskets. ..............lm

apeonwheels wrote:Hi Oldsrambler, thanks for your reply. I don`t remember the size of the pistons because I put the engine together about two years ago. But I think it wasn`t that large, it was the 1st or 2nd oversize. The smoke was white, but fortunately it got better the weekend when i let the engine run longer, it`s almost smokeless now :) probably the rings needed more time to wear in. The plugs: one is covered with soot, the other is wet from fuel. For some reason the mix is super rich, although I set everything for specs. I pulled apart the carbs and now I`m trying ti figure out what is the reason for this rich mixture. My guess is the aftermarket rebuild kit, which is such a good quality, made in Japan of course, that the float bowl gasket got swollen when it met the fuel for the first time, so now I need another pair that is fuel resistant. Another idea is that I left the carbs in cleaner for too long and it dissolved the material of the carbs as well not just the dirt.

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Post by apeonwheels » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:27 pm

I just ordered a Keyster set, if the gaskets turn to be fuel resistant I`m gonna make a pair of thick paper. It`s ridiculous that they sell FUEL gaskets that dissolve in FUEL... And they ask a lot of money for this garbage...

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