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Crank seal replacement and reassembly question...

LOUD MOUSE
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:31 pm

Part #22,25 and 33. ......lm

rzgkane wrote:
davomoto wrote:The collar keeps the sprocket off of the seal. There should be a small plate for lack of better word, that keeps the sprocket from traveling outward. it's affixed with a 6mm phillips head screw.

Davo
Collar? What collar? Plate? Hmm, not here. And what does that 6mm screw affix the "plate" to?

I have a crank seal, then a crankshaft starter sprocket, then a starter clutch in that order. The parts diagram shows nothing else, either. You've got me concerned, now, that I don't have all the parts I should have.

Someone was in there before me so what I have might not be all there ever was?

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Stopper, starting sprocket

Post by conbs » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:34 pm

I think Davo is referring you to a part with the above name which would be 28116-259-000. Item #22 in my parts diagram.

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Re: Stopper, starting sprocket

Post by rzgkane » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:42 pm

conbs wrote:I think Davo is referring you to a part with the above name which would be 28116-259-000. Item #22 in my parts diagram.
Ok, the little plate that keeps the sprocket from moving outward I have. Affixed by 6mm bolt. Check.

What I don't see is anything that keeps the crankshaft's starter sprocket from hitting against the crank seal. There was nothing in between these two parts when I disassembled it. My thought is that the sprocket basically sits idle and independent of the starter clutch when not being driven by the starter's sprocket and MAYBE the starter's sprocket being outward of the surface of the crank seal keeps the crank's starter sprocket in line?

I have a crank seal, then a crankshaft starter sprocket, then a starter clutch in that order. The parts diagram shows nothing else, either. You've got me concerned, now, that I don't have all the parts I should have.

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Re: Stopper, starting sprocket

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:58 pm

There is Nothing Else. ................lm

rzgkane wrote:
conbs wrote:I think Davo is referring you to a part with the above name which would be 28116-259-000. Item #22 in my parts diagram.
Ok, the little plate that keeps the seal from moving outward I have. Affixed by 6mm bolt. Check.

What I don't see is anything that keeps the crankshaft's starter sprocket from hitting against the crank seal. There was nothing in between these two parts when I disassembled it. My thought is that the sprocket basically sits idle and independent of the starter clutch when not being driven by the starter's sprocket and MAYBE the starter's sprocket being outward of the surface of the crank seal keeps the crank's starter sprocket in line?

I have a crank seal, then a crankshaft starter sprocket, then a starter clutch in that order. The parts diagram shows nothing else, either. You've got me concerned, now, that I don't have all the parts I should have.

Image
Pages from 1960 Dream Parts Manual by rzgkane, on Flickr

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Re: Stopper, starting sprocket

Post by rzgkane » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:19 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:There is Nothing Else. ................lm

rzgkane wrote:
conbs wrote:I think Davo is referring you to a part with the above name which would be 28116-259-000. Item #22 in my parts diagram.
Ok, the little plate that keeps the seal from moving outward I have. Affixed by 6mm bolt. Check.

What I don't see is anything that keeps the crankshaft's starter sprocket from hitting against the crank seal. There was nothing in between these two parts when I disassembled it. My thought is that the sprocket basically sits idle and independent of the starter clutch when not being driven by the starter's sprocket and MAYBE the starter's sprocket being outward of the surface of the crank seal keeps the crank's starter sprocket in line?

I have a crank seal, then a crankshaft starter sprocket, then a starter clutch in that order. The parts diagram shows nothing else, either. You've got me concerned, now, that I don't have all the parts I should have.

Image
Pages from 1960 Dream Parts Manual by rzgkane, on Flickr
Thank you.

Now if only one of the three sources I've bought crank seals from would get the damn thing to my house we'd be in business.

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Re: Stopper, starting sprocket

Post by rzgkane » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:46 pm

rzgkane wrote: Now if only one of the three sources I've bought crank seals from would get the damn thing to my house we'd be in business.
Crank seal arrived. Chamfered the edge of the case (thanks for that tip) and used 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive around the edge of the seal and it went in very smoothly.

Only hitch was that the seal needs to be counter sunk into the case about 1mm to allow the starter sprocket to also sit inward. Otherwise, the little plate that holds the starter sprocket from traveling outward will mash the sprocket against the seal and hold it from rotating.

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