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Headlamp bucket wiring on a CL77

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Headlamp bucket wiring on a CL77

Post by ggray » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:22 pm

I'm having trouble blowing fuses on my '65 CL77 and have the headlight bucket wired as I see it in the shop manual.

I only seem to blow fuses when I either toggle the dimmer switch or move the HL switch from middle position to either LH or RH position.

Here is how I have the wiring routed in the HL bucket.

Can someone verify that this is correct?

From the HL switch:
Purple to Purple on the main harness from ignition switch.
Yellow to yellow on the main harness from ignition switch.
Brown to brown on the dimmer switch.
Black to black with three sockets on the main harness from ignition switch.
Green to green with three sockets on the main harness from ignition switch


From the dimmer switch:

Brown to Brown from HL switch.
Black to horn.
Red & Blue to Headlight red and blue.


Neutral lamp:
Green with red stripe to green with red stripe on the main harness from neutral switch.
Black to black with three sockets on the main harness from ignition switch.

Also, can someone confirm which wire is the 12v supply to the HL switch? I am checking it to be the black wire on the main harness.

I WAS getting continuity from the blue wire in the Dimmer switch to ground and thought that was my problem. I rebuilt the switch and didn't get the previous continuity but now I cannot get 12v to my red or blue HL wires.

Might I have a bad switch?

Help!!

Gary
'65 CL77 Owner

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Post by davomoto » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:49 pm

My brothers` CL77 was doing the same thing. This probably isn't the case with yours but..... someone had run a wire from the back of the ignition switch, green post, to ground. Normally on old Hondas, green is ground. Did it stop blowing fuses after you repaired grounding issue with bar switch?

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Post by cribbs74 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:31 pm

Gary,

Your wiring sounds OK I think. I don't have my bucket off right now, However from your symptoms I am leaning towards the switch. Not much to the switch, should be real easy to fix. The only grounds in you bucket should be your lamps to include the HL. We probably should talk offline. I just re worked mine and found a couple mistakes that I had to fix.
Ron Cribbs
1966 CL77
1965 CB160
1974 Triumph T150V

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Post by cribbs74 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:14 am

Gary,

I just re read your post. now I am wondering where you put your headlight ground. Mine I believe ties into the ground from the high beam lamp. Let me know

Ron
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1965 CB160
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follow up

Post by ggray » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:15 pm

OK, here's where I am now:

I installed a 15 amp circuit breaker in lieu of my fuse at the battery as I was going through fuses like peanuts.

I get neutral light on as soon as I turn my key to the run position. That's good.

As soon as I turn the headlight switch CW to the RH position (Position II), the neutral light goes out. It doesn't seem to trip the breaker but I don't leave it on for more than a second or two at any one time.

All headlight bucket wiring is still as stated in original posting in this thread.

All fuse blowing has occured when the HL switch has been engaged to position II (RH position).

When HL switch is turned to the left, The tail light DOES come on, as it should according to my service manual. Speedo light is not hooked up so I cannot say if it will come on in this position also.

I only seem to have a problem with the HL switch in the RH position (Position II).

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Gary
'65 CL77 Owner

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2nd follow up

Post by ggray » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:25 pm

OK, as a follow up to the follow up, I plugged my headlamp in as follows:

Red to red on harness from dimmer switch

Blue to blue on harness from dimmer switch.

Green to three socket green from main harness.

Now I get the HL to come on with HL switch in the LH position (Position I) !!!!!!!!!!!

According to my book, it should come on in the RH position only.

Also as an added note. Dimmer switch does not switch HL from low to Hi beam with HL on in the LH switch position.

AND, horn will work with the HL switch in the "0" position but will not work in either position I or position II.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Gary
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Post by davomoto » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:29 pm

Gary, are you getting a good ground to the headlight and bucket? Check it by using the aligator clip on a test light to bucket, and test light to battery. This was another problem we had on my Bros CL. Otherwise sounds like the switch might be the culprit.

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