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1964 Honda C78 stator question

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LOUD MOUSE
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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:58 am

None of those connectors are HONDA so I think you will find that SOMEONE has modified at least that area of the bike.
Look into the headlight bucket as you MAY FIND something there also. ........lm
rovlie wrote:Here some extra pics about the green wire, dynamo and coil
Detail picture from the coil will come..coil is now at my fathers workshop for testing..

The wire is cut on both sides, dynamo side and also coil side..
That's the strange part of it, why it is cut and why is it there??
It lookes factory original and that strange too..

I have several diagrams but without any dates..
It would be nice to have a 1964/1965 C78 wiring diagram

I will test the positions of the light switch and look what switch I have..

Regards, Ronald

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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by rovlie » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:01 pm

I know the connectors are not original Honda. I don't know why they changed the conectors??
It 's the only place on the whole bike where they changed the connectors..
The wiring is original...

In the headlighbucket and unit I find no modified wiring, all looks original and all original connector are there...
All wiring colors are also correct when I check my diagram..

I find also some info about the contact switch and I saw there are 2 differend switches a 5 and a 6 stand switch..

What is the original type for 1964 and what is the difference in funtion of the two?

Ronald

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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by rovlie » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:11 pm

Here some pictures of the coil with green wire..
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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:43 pm

<<<<<<<<I know the connectors are not original Honda. I don't know why they changed the conectors??>>>>>>>>>>
OK now lets say I had a idea of some sort which I thought I could add a wire from the stater and run it to a couple of places.
Now I want to protect it and make it look origional.
I want to add it at the stator with the other 4 wires but I can not pull/push it through the origional covering.
So I get new covering (the covering at the end is not original as you can see that it changed at the middle bulge) to run the 5 wires through but I can't do that with the connectors attached.
So I cut them off and push/pull the 5 wires into the sleeve then I install new connectors.
Ever do that?
I do it every time I replace the covering at the steering head on the harness which enters the headlight bucket.
However I heat the connectors and remove them so I can solder them back to the wires.
I'd say what ever the idea was it didn't do what the installer wanted as it is cut out at several places.
I'm not sure the DREAM had 2 different switches but you can assume the one on your bike may be origional. ................lm




rovlie wrote:I know the connectors are not original Honda. I don't know why they changed the conectors??
It 's the only place on the whole bike where they changed the connectors..
The wiring is original...

In the headlighbucket and unit I find no modified wiring, all looks original and all original connector are there...
All wiring colors are also correct when I check my diagram..

I find also some info about the contact switch and I saw there are 2 differend switches a 5 and a 6 stand switch..

What is the original type for 1964 and what is the difference in funtion of the two?

Ronald

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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by rovlie » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:05 am

Hi all,

Is there someone who can give me a sirious answer??

Loud Mouse: Can you tel me why another Dutch guy have's several stators with also this green wire? Because it's home made on his stators his too?? I don't think so!!

Hmmm, could it be something for Europe models only?

Ronald

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Post by jensey » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:33 am

Hi,

I answered your question in another thread, not knowing that you posted your question more then once. I even took the time to put pictures of a similar stator in the thread.
Can you tel me why another Dutch guy have's several stators with also this green wire? Because it's home made on his stators his too?? I don't think so!!
This other Dutch guy is a long term member on this forum, and I would ask you to be a bit more respectful toward other forum members like Ed.

Like I said, I also got several stators with the green wire, but also from the US, so I doubt it is a European type only. But....., the green wire stators I have, differ from yours, some of mine are NOS and untouched, so my conclusion would be that the green wire runs through the black umbilical, and not through the stator side wall on a very critical place. Honda would never engineer the stator this way, trust me (and Ed) on that.

I will measure the resistances as well, but after Christmas, if that is all right with you ?

Jensen
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Re: 1964 Honda C78 stator question

Post by rovlie » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:42 am

No problem!

Do you received the PM?

Ronald

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