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kickstarter falls forward after kicking

Post by owlneck » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:13 am

hi , I just bought a 68' cb77,
the main problem( which seems common) is the kickstarter pawl spring broke or something similar. I can't fix it myself, I don't have the time, garage or know how. transmission work makes me nervous in general . I'm bringing it to a vintage mechanic.
I bought a replacment oem pawl spring , but that is just a guess.
how do you actually replace the spring? can you get it through the L/H crankcase?
If its only an hour or two i might just drop it
Off at the mechanic. thanks !
tom

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Re: kickstarter falls forward after kicking

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Give us a better idea of what the engine doesn't do. ..............lm

quote="owlneck"]hi , I just bought a 68' cb77,
the main problem( which seems common) is the kickstarter pawl spring broke or something similar. I can't fix it myself, I don't have the time, garage or know how. transmission work makes me nervous in general . I'm bringing it to a vintage mechanic.
I bought a replacment oem pawl spring , but that is just a guess.
how do you actually replace the spring? can you get it through the L/H crankcase?
If its only an hour or two i might just drop it
Off at the mechanic. thanks !
tom[/quote]

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Post by owlneck » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:24 pm

I kick start the motor. it starts and runs easily, but the kick start points straight down instead of returning. there is a winding sound until I manually pull the kick start back. it is hard to get into first gear but not impossible. all other gears shift fine.

P.s. The large kick start return spring in the R/h case is working but may not be wound properly, Not sure how to do that but I read that could be a problem.

the bike sat in a garage for 32 years and has only a few new miles on it since it's revival from the dead.

The bike has 9,000 miles on it.

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:29 am

You may want to check the return spring inside the RS cover.
It is what returns the kick lever. ..................lm
owlneck wrote:I kick start the motor. it starts and runs easily, but the kick start points straight down instead of returning. there is a winding sound until I manually pull the kick start back. it is hard to get into first gear but not impossible. all other gears shift fine.

P.s. The large kick start return spring in the R/h case is working but may not be wound properly, Not sure how to do that but I read that could be a problem.

the bike sat in a garage for 32 years and has only a few new miles on it since it's revival from the dead.

The bike has 9,000 miles on it.

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Post by owlneck » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:04 pm

thanks LM
,
is the return spring behind the clutch basket? I know it's inside first gear but how much do I have to remove to get to it?

Thanks.
Tom

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:38 am

Inside the Right Side cover. ...................lm
owlneck wrote:thanks LM
,
is the return spring behind the clutch basket? I know it's inside first gear but how much do I have to remove to get to it?

Thanks.
Tom

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Post by owlneck » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:55 am

Thanks LM!,

the problem was the kickstarter needed to be rewound properly.

Here is a pretty good description by 305 member jleewebb I found


1. The spring end that wraps around the bolt needs to have the orientation of an "S".
2. There is a punch mark and a "o" on the each of the two gears.
3. After the top gear is installed on top of the "S" spring, align the lower gear when installing so that EITHER the punch or the "o" line up.
4. With the crankcase flipped over, install the kickstart lever so that the punch on the arm aligns with the small punch on the tip of the shaft.
5. Go to the bike and turn the kickstart shaft that's in the transmission clockwise until it will not move any further.
6. Then as the kickstart lever is rotated, the gears should rotate around and either both punches or both "o's" will align. You'll find that the lever is now pointing up at about 2 o'clock.
7. Now hold the lever in this position and slip it onto the kickstart shaft on the bike and you're good to go.

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