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CB77 speedo cluster

Post by masonmart » Fri May 26, 2017 11:50 am

After getting my CB77 up and running again after winter and for MOT I've found that the speedo and rev counter are acting crazy going in bizarre directions and hitting full scale at low speed. Now the speedo works but the rev counter doesn't.

Is this normal behaviour, is it fixable and are their any experts who can fix these things in the UK?

Many thanks

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Re: CB77 speedo cluster

Post by G-Man » Fri May 26, 2017 1:23 pm

Often it's just a case of 'stick-slip' caused by a dry cable or input bearing. The cable stops for a moment, winds up then releases the energy causing the needle to swing violently.

Try running a couple of drops of oil into the input bearing of the tachometer and lubing the cable. If that doesn't work the unit may need stripping and lubricating.

I've stripped a few down and restored them but I'm pretty tied up for the foreseeable future.

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masonmart wrote:After getting my CB77 up and running again after winter and for MOT I've found that the speedo and rev counter are acting crazy going in bizarre directions and hitting full scale at low speed. Now the speedo works but the rev counter doesn't.

Is this normal behaviour, is it fixable and are their any experts who can fix these things in the UK?

Many thanks
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Post by masonmart » Sat May 27, 2017 2:21 am

Thanks G-Man, will have a go later. The prices that people are asking for the ones that I've seen available are eye watering.

I have a spare but it's one of the earlier ones where the tachometer and speedo needles go in opposite directions.

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Post by Jpaul123 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:21 am

Hi - have just got my 1962 CB72 restored and running after sitting in somebody's garage for the last 20 years and the speedo and revcounter are doing the same thing i.e. going crazy - did you fix yours Masonmart?
G-Man - how difficult are these to strip down and restore?
Thanks for any advice

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Post by G-Man » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:26 pm

It depends how patient and skillful you are. Hardest job is to carefully prise the bezel off. After that it is simply a job of dismantling small mechanical components, cleaning and lubricating them.


Here is a CL speedo bezel......

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You just work around easing up the edge of the bezel until you can remove it.

With th ebezel and glass off you have to remove the needle(s). This is done by putting some cardboard packing over the face and easing up on both sides of the needle with something like a teaspoon handle. The needle will fly off so cover with a piece of light cloth.

The inside will look a bit like this.....

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Clean with solvent and lubricate with grease and clock oil sparingly.


There are some walk-throughs here if you do a search.

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Jpaul123 wrote:Hi - have just got my 1962 CB72 restored and running after sitting in somebody's garage for the last 20 years and the speedo and revcounter are doing the same thing i.e. going crazy - did you fix yours Masonmart?
G-Man - how difficult are these to strip down and restore?
Thanks for any advice
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'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by Billiam » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:31 pm

For what its worth - Getting the bezel off is the thing. Very gently easing it up with a smallish screwdiver and pry bar did it for me. It won't look pretty but its underneath. Bought some watch makers oil on ebay but then bought another unit from, yes, ebay, so have still to complete it.

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Post by DJM » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:30 pm

Hi,

I had just this problem with my restored CL77, wild swings to the needles, screeching noises from the speedo and a needle that took forever to return to zero when stopped. Like you I didn't fancy much stripping it down, or really trying to get it back together.

I took off the speedo and placed it faced down on the bench and then added two or thee drops only of thin oil to the cable connection and left it like that overnight. We get something over here called Three in One Oil and I used that.

I'd heard that some after market speedo cables had an inner cable slightly longer than it should be but again I didn't want to start chopping the end off the cable. Solution was to put a small 'O' ring inside the speedo cable end coupling which effectively lengthened the outer cable instead.

Result was a fifty plus year old speedo which is rock steady and accurate too. I did that four or five years ago and the speedo is still behaving perfectly, I might just have been lucky but it could work for you too, certainly worth a try.

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