CHECK OUT THIS BIKE FOR CORRECTNESS "CL77 HONDA"

48lesco · Post by **48lesco** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:24 pm

What's that screen door closer thingy on your steering do??? And you have small hubs...

jensen · Post by **jensen** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:43 am

@ 48,

Yes, you right. In europe we all think this way.
We feel this so strongly that Honda did not even consider shipping the CL to Europe, because lack of buyers,

Jensen

48lesco · Post by **48lesco** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:01 am

Wow all of Europe!!! - good to get our feelings out.

I'll probably buy a CL eventually anyway because not having the complete set bothers me more. I'll probably park it away from the other bikes though...

jensen · Post by **jensen** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:48 am

well,

Want one too, exclusive bike over here, and although it isn't my taste, the bike sure has something, but it's hard to define.

Jensen

Snakeoil · Post by **Snakeoil** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:24 pm

The CL looks like a flat tracker to me. That might very well have been the look Honda was shooting for if this was a model developed for the US market. Flat track, hill climbs, hare scrambles, and such were extremely popular until all the sub-divisions started displacing all the tracks and all the tree-huggers managed to legislate away all the open land riding.

When I was a kid in the 50's, the only bikes you saw on the street were Harley dressers and you rarely saw them. I don't remember seeing British bikes in upstate NY until the mid-60's. At the local flat track the European bikes were there in both 2 and 4 strokes, as well as older Harleys and Indians.

I might be wrong, but based on what I know about the UK and Europe, you have very few if any places to woods ride or similar. No desert riding, that's for sure. So I can see the scrambler being a bit of a foreign beast to you. I know that scrambles were popular in the UK in the 50's and early 60's. Not sure if they have lost their facilities to do these anymore.

If you poll American riders today, I think you will find that the vast majority of us, started out on dirt bikes. The cafe racer scene never caught on here until it was over in the UK and became chique here. Now it is being revived or maybe copied is a better description, here in the US.

Dirt bikes were never intended to be fashionable. They are tools. Granted, many dirt riders think their bikes are pieces of art and all the useless accessories sold for them confirm that they too have become fashion items. But I never saw my dirt bikes as pretty. They were purposeful. And the better they did their job, the better looking they got to me. But dirt riding is all about the ride, not posturing and profiling in a bar parking lot. Street bikes on the other hand have always been fashion statements, with choppers and customs at the extreme end where form overrides function. My first love was road racers from when I was old enough to know what they were. They were purpose built machines that were like stunning women to me, and this was before I discovered women. So when Dunstall and others started making cafe kits for bikes, I wanted one in the worst way. But I was a kid with no money so want was as close as I got. Now, I still want to build one, maybe a Triton someday, but know that it will be tortuous to ride.

Each to his own. We all don't marry people who are beautiful in the eyes of others, but are beautiful to us. Some like them fat, skinny, tall, short, loug, quiet, rough, refined.... So, telling a rider that you don't get why he has a particular bike is like telling someone you cannot understand why they married who they did. It ain't a competition.

regards,
Rob

linmictil2 · Post by **linmictil2** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:57 pm

I rode mine to work in the summer and winter. When the snow was deep I was one of the few that got in. On weekends and holidays I did a lot of boondock hill climbing. I raced the 1/4 mile dragstrip now and then and rode a lot of young women around in between. Many still have the scarring from burning their legs on the high pipes. Can't say that about "Dreams" Long live the CL77's Merry Christmas all Mike

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:40 pm

I don't recall where Moto Cross originated and the ISDT escapes me also. ...............lm

Snakeoil wrote:The CL looks like a flat tracker to me. That might very well have been the look Honda was shooting for if this was a model developed for the US market. Flat track, hill climbs, hare scrambles, and such were extremely popular until all the sub-divisions started displacing all the tracks and all the tree-huggers managed to legislate away all the open land riding.

When I was a kid in the 50's, the only bikes you saw on the street were Harley dressers and you rarely saw them. I don't remember seeing British bikes in upstate NY until the mid-60's. At the local flat track the European bikes were there in both 2 and 4 strokes, as well as older Harleys and Indians.

I might be wrong, but based on what I know about the UK and Europe, you have very few if any places to woods ride or similar. No desert riding, that's for sure. So I can see the scrambler being a bit of a foreign beast to you. I know that scrambles were popular in the UK in the 50's and early 60's. Not sure if they have lost their facilities to do these anymore.

If you poll American riders today, I think you will find that the vast majority of us, started out on dirt bikes. The cafe racer scene never caught on here until it was over in the UK and became chique here. Now it is being revived or maybe copied is a better description, here in the US.

Dirt bikes were never intended to be fashionable. They are tools. Granted, many dirt riders think their bikes are pieces of art and all the useless accessories sold for them confirm that they too have become fashion items. But I never saw my dirt bikes as pretty. They were purposeful. And the better they did their job, the better looking they got to me. But dirt riding is all about the ride, not posturing and profiling in a bar parking lot. Street bikes on the other hand have always been fashion statements, with choppers and customs at the extreme end where form overrides function. My first love was road racers from when I was old enough to know what they were. They were purpose built machines that were like stunning women to me, and this was before I discovered women. So when Dunstall and others started making cafe kits for bikes, I wanted one in the worst way. But I was a kid with no money so want was as close as I got. Now, I still want to build one, maybe a Triton someday, but know that it will be tortuous to ride.

Each to his own. We all don't marry people who are beautiful in the eyes of others, but are beautiful to us. Some like them fat, skinny, tall, short, loug, quiet, rough, refined.... So, telling a rider that you don't get why he has a particular bike is like telling someone you cannot understand why they married who they did. It ain't a competition.

regards,
Rob