This was it... this very first reply was the solution... I don't know, I guess my brain just didnt register what you said and I went in some other direction. Now that i figured it out reading back over this post it's so simple. i wasnt turning the shaft hard enough to lock it into place... basicy what the spring and the case will do once they are installed.davomoto wrote:Rotate the kick shaft forward until it locks, sort of, into place. Hold it there while spinning the trans, and noises should disappear. When the right sidecvover is installed, the kickstart spring will hold the shaft in this position.
davomoto
I still have broken elements in the case and the KS-spline is bent and a few other parts are damaged so I will be looking for a new transmission.
thanks you all for your help, sorry my crazy obsessive brain got fixed on the wrong path.