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Post by G-Man » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:53 pm

With thanks to DJM for reminding me that I already had this brochure, here are some scans from a (1960 or 61) Honda CB72 brochure. These reveal some confusing details which contradict other period photographs but I suppose the brochures were done before the bikes rolled out in any quantity.

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The side view above shows a body color (or black) rear license plate bracket where the UK road test bike had silver. Also shown is a rear brake plate with a short stay, giving a routing for the rear brake cable over the top of the fender. Fascinating to see the passenger footpegs mounted in that position next to the rear shocks. The 'boys' have done a great job of 'deleting' the center stand, too!

Here, the details show the footpeg rubber, perhaps a little fatter than the Clauss Studios reproductions, the wire clips fro the air filter tubes and the early shifter linkage.

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This bike doesn't even have footpeg rubbers!! Maybe that hadn't got any available?

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And here are the specs. I don't think that there are any surprises here, but it does look like they were using Dream-type clutch and brake levers with the tiny ball-ends....

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'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:23 pm

Black horn.
Missing grease nipple at the swing arm bolt.
Black LP bracket is as I see them as US rather than the Brit (large plate mount) and if I could get a better look at the carbs I suspect this bike is a CB72.
The air tube clamp is the only issue shown in the 1968 HONDA CB77 parts book?
Front brake cable appears to come down IN FRONT of the lower triple clamp.
If the front shift part on the shaft is the same as production this trans will not shift to 2nd.
Probably missed a couple of things not mentioned by"G" or me. ................lm
G-Man wrote:With thanks to DJM for reminding me that I already had this brochure, here are some scans from a (1960 or 61) Honda CB72 brochure. These reveal some confusing details which contradict other period photographs but I suppose the brochures were done before the bikes rolled out in any quantity.


The side view above shows a body color (or black) rear license plate bracket where the UK road test bike had silver. Also shown is a rear brake plate with a short stay, giving a routing for the rear brake cable over the top of the fender. Fascinating to see the passenger footpegs mounted in that position next to the rear shocks. The 'boys' have done a great job of 'deleting' the center stand, too!

Here, the details show the footpeg rubber, perhaps a little fatter than the Clauss Studios reproductions, the wire clips fro the air filter tubes and the early shifter linkage.


This bike doesn't even have footpeg rubbers!! Maybe that hadn't got any available?


And here are the specs. I don't think that there are any surprises here, but it does look like they were using Dream-type clutch and brake levers with the tiny ball-ends....


G

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Post by cknight » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:26 pm

Hoses on float bowl vents/overflow tubes?

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:31 pm

I saw those also and sure is a lot of something in that area. .................lm

cknight wrote:Hoses on float bowl vents/overflow tubes?

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Post by G-Man » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:09 am

Thanks LM

The bike with the two people facing us has no footpeg rubbers.....

If you click on the photos you can go to Flickr and see very hi-resolution versions.

It looks like the rear spindle has a hexagon on it.

The 'early' brit bikes had a small US-style licence plate bracket but they (or certainly some) were silver. There were traces of original silver on mine.

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LOUD MOUSE wrote:Black horn.
Missing grease nipple at the swing arm bolt.
Black LP bracket is as I see them as US rather than the Brit (large plate mount) and if I could get a better look at the carbs I suspect this bike is a CB72.
The air tube clamp is the only issue shown in the 1968 HONDA CB77 parts book?
Front brake cable appears to come down IN FRONT of the lower triple clamp.
If the front shift part on the shaft is the same as production this trans will not shift to 2nd.
Probably missed a couple of things not mentioned by"G" or me. ................lm
G-Man wrote:With thanks to DJM for reminding me that I already had this brochure, here are some scans from a (1960 or 61) Honda CB72 brochure. These reveal some confusing details which contradict other period photographs but I suppose the brochures were done before the bikes rolled out in any quantity.


The side view above shows a body color (or black) rear license plate bracket where the UK road test bike had silver. Also shown is a rear brake plate with a short stay, giving a routing for the rear brake cable over the top of the fender. Fascinating to see the passenger footpegs mounted in that position next to the rear shocks. The 'boys' have done a great job of 'deleting' the center stand, too!

Here, the details show the footpeg rubber, perhaps a little fatter than the Clauss Studios reproductions, the wire clips fro the air filter tubes and the early shifter linkage.


This bike doesn't even have footpeg rubbers!! Maybe that hadn't got any available?


And here are the specs. I don't think that there are any surprises here, but it does look like they were using Dream-type clutch and brake levers with the tiny ball-ends....


G
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by G-Man » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:13 am

Thanks Chase. The original photo is a 'halftone' (lots of dots) print so it's difficult to get a good scan.


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cknight wrote:Hoses on float bowl vents/overflow tubes?
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by e3steve » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:14 am

The tank badges appear to state "Dream 250" (á la early U.K. models)...

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