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Post by G-Man » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:35 pm

LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

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LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:16 pm

Please let me know. ........................lm

G-Man wrote:LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





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Post by G-Man » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:25 am

LM

What do you think the issue is? I did notice that some of the rear spoke nipples ran further on to the spoke than the front ones. Do you have a particular issue?

With older British bikes and aftermarket spokes it is common to have to grind off any excess spoke after final truing.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Please let me know. ........................lm

G-Man wrote:LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





G
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'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:50 am

I know of a person who paid to have his rear rim spooked and it has the nipples on one side threaded down almost to the end of the spoke and the other about half way down.
This will throw the rim a bit to one side. .....................lm

G-Man wrote:LM

What do you think the issue is? I did notice that some of the rear spoke nipples ran further on to the spoke than the front ones. Do you have a particular issue?

With older British bikes and aftermarket spokes it is common to have to grind off any excess spoke after final truing.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Please let me know. ........................lm

G-Man wrote:LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





G
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Post by G-Man » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:08 am

LM

OK - I don't think I'm going to have that problem. Will let you know when I have finished the truing.

G
LOUD MOUSE wrote:I know of a person who paid to have his rear rim spooked and it has the nipples on one side threaded down almost to the end of the spoke and the other about half way down.
This will throw the rim a bit to one side. .....................lm

G-Man wrote:LM

What do you think the issue is? I did notice that some of the rear spoke nipples ran further on to the spoke than the front ones. Do you have a particular issue?

With older British bikes and aftermarket spokes it is common to have to grind off any excess spoke after final truing.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Please let me know. ........................lm

G-Man wrote:LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





G
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'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:10 am

Thanks G. .................lm

G-Man wrote:LM

OK - I don't think I'm going to have that problem. Will let you know when I have finished the truing.

G
LOUD MOUSE wrote:I know of a person who paid to have his rear rim spooked and it has the nipples on one side threaded down almost to the end of the spoke and the other about half way down.
This will throw the rim a bit to one side. .....................lm

G-Man wrote:LM

What do you think the issue is? I did notice that some of the rear spoke nipples ran further on to the spoke than the front ones. Do you have a particular issue?

With older British bikes and aftermarket spokes it is common to have to grind off any excess spoke after final truing.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Please let me know. ........................lm

G-Man wrote:LM - No problem so far but I haven't fully trued the rims, yet.

G

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Did you get the rear wheel spokes to be the same length at the nipples G? .............lm





G
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Post by DJM » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:46 pm

I had just this problem when I rebuilt the wheels on my CB77 a couple of years ago.
Some of the spokes were run right down and sticking through into the inside of the wheel while others had threads showing outside of the nipple, this was despite using correct OEM spokes and re-using the original rims, I was puzzled.

I took the wheels to an experienced wheel builder for advice, his first advice was 'Why didn't you bring the job to me in the first place' but I like to do things myself if I can.and 'my' wheel was running dead true and was centred correctly, just had a problem with the spoke lengths and projections.

The solution was as easy as it was obvious, he simply loosened half of the spokes and tightened the others which in effect rotated the whole rim around the hub by a few degrees, that simple, all the excess thread dissapeared inside the nipples and nothing to grind off inside the wheel either, mind you, he had been building wheels for close to forty years and this was only my second attempt!

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