honda305 Home honda305 Auctions honda305 Gallery honda305 Forum


honda305.com Forum

Login
□ Search
□ FAQ 
□ 
Vintage Honda Owners,
Restorers, Riders and
Admirers

1961 CB72 Project

Want to keep a Restoration Log? Post it here! You can include photos. Suggested format: One Restoration per Thread; then keep adding your updates to the same thread...
jensey
honda305.com Member
Posts: 384
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:34 am
Location: Netherlands

Post by jensey » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:20 am

Hi,

Seems to be an early dream case ?

Jensen
assembly of Japanese motorcycles requires great peace of mind (Pirsig)

User avatar
G-Man
honda305.com Member
Posts: 5678
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 pm
Location: Derby, UK
Contact:

Post by G-Man » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:01 pm

Jensen

I was hoping you would take a look. Not much space for the number on there. Anything else to identify it as a Dream case?

G
jensey wrote:Hi,

Seems to be an early dream case ?

Jensen
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

User avatar
G-Man
honda305.com Member
Posts: 5678
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 pm
Location: Derby, UK
Contact:

Post by G-Man » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:55 am

I made a chance discovery recently. I sold one of my Dream 'projects' to a friend who wanted something to occupy his evenings. It turns out that he used to own a brake-relining company. They sold all the machinery but keep a close relationship with the new owners. I dropped off three sets and they came back with nice thick linings fitted. The company do overspeed brakes for wind turbines so the quality of their work is high. Prices are a pleasant surprise, too.

Image

The gold finish is their standard practice and although I don't like it, wil never be seen when the brakes are assembled.

The plan is to assemble the brake-plate with shoes and the skim the hubs and the drums to get maximum coverage of shoes and drum.

I also have an early DLS brake plate which I will do at the same time, just in case.....

Image

I have left this one assembled for the time being so that I have a pattern to follow for re-assembly.

Image

G
Last edited by G-Man on Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

User avatar
G-Man
honda305.com Member
Posts: 5678
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 pm
Location: Derby, UK
Contact:

Post by G-Man » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:01 am

I posted details elsewhere but I was very pleased with my latest camchain tensioner mod using Kawasaki DOHC idler sprockets. These are steel sprockets with rubber cusioning both on the hub and alongside the sprocket teeth. A very high quality part which can be picked up for $20 on eBay. It requires a new needle bearing and a couple of shims to make it fit in place of the 'small' Honda tensioner.

Image

The rubber cushions should make this run nice and quietly.

Image

Image

A sort of "Kwakallini" product..... :-)


G
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

User avatar
G-Man
honda305.com Member
Posts: 5678
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 pm
Location: Derby, UK
Contact:

Post by G-Man » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:39 pm

Sometimes I surprise even myself at the things I have to do to solve little problems on this project. When I was taking apart the speedo drive a little thrust washer got caught and mangled. That will be OK, I thought, I'll just go on line and order a replacement. After all it's only a washer. After searching for a while I remembered that Honda never made anything a standard size if they could avoid it so my luck was out.

Image

The washer fits over the speedo drive shaft and prevents the skew gear from chewing up the casing of the unit. The washer was 1/2 mm thick, 9mm id and 12mm od. The closest I could get was 15mm od. I bought a quantity of those washers then set about making a little tool to help me reduce the diameter.

Image

With the big washers stacked onto my little tool it was easy enough to turn them to the required size.

Image

Once they were the correct OD they could be taken out of the fixture.

Image

Having modified 10 washers, I only needed one so I have a few spares. That's got to be the most expensive small washer ever, even by Honda standards....

G
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

User avatar
G-Man
honda305.com Member
Posts: 5678
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 pm
Location: Derby, UK
Contact:

Post by G-Man » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:53 pm

With the speedo drive problem sorted I wanted to do a dry run of my hubs and brake plates. I wasn't certain that I had all the right linkage parts and springs etc.

The front hub got a pair of NOS brake shoes and they were a nice close fit to the drum.

Image

I was expecting to have to skim the shoes but they looked perfect and the drum surface is pretty nice, too.

The rear brake got a set of the shoes I recently had re-lined and they were slightly larger than the drum. The rear drum is not as nice as the front so I am going to skim both and get them matching up nicely.

Image

The linkages got a fresh set of stainless steel rivets to finish them off. I need to get some bearings and get the rear drum and shoes skimmed. With that done, everything will come apart again for a final polish and I'll be able to start wheel building.

Image

G
'60 C77 '60 C72 '62 C72 Dream '63 CL72
'61 CB72 '64 CB77 '65 CB160
'66 Matchless 350 '67 CL77
'67 S90 '77 CB400F

User avatar
Seadog
honda305.com Member
Posts: 1272
Joined: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:54 am
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post by Seadog » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:42 pm

LOL, no surprise for the rest of us, we've grown to expect your mad skills...nice job on all.

G-Man wrote:Sometimes I surprise even myself at the things I have to do to solve little problems on this project. .....Having modified 10 washers, I only needed one so I have a few spares. That's got to be the most expensive small washer ever, even by Honda standards....

G

Post Reply




 

CB-77 | CYP-77 | Road Test | Riding Log | Literature | Zen | Marketplace | VJ Survey | Links | Home