'63 CA77, or is it?

[e3steve]

Good info Graham.

Not wishing to argue, nor to make an arse of myself, but I'm sure I have, somewhere, pics of:

• a CS77 -- high pipes / flat, pressed tin handlebar
  a CAS77 -- high pipes / tubular handlebar

but they elude my searching right now.

@Primer: you may find that the mufflers and headers are very hard to source, if not impossible. I hope you have those in the inventory!

[Hoosier Tom]

The '61 has round ball bearings that essentially are assembled veeerrrry carefully. The later bike has the "self contained" cylindrical bearings in a flexible cone. Doh!

Primer,

Even the later Dreams up until the end of production came with the individual ball bearings on the steering stem. If your later Dream has tapered roller bearings it's because someone changed them out.

HT

[G-Man]

Steve

You're probably right - that makes more sense. A friend has one of those. There's a guy in Asia who occasionally makes pipes for the CS bikes. Paul Stassmaier got some for his CS72, I think.

My friend has one.

G

[e3steve]

Very cool-looking machine. Not good for riding in hot climates, though; you'd certainly end up with some betty swollocks!

I've found a pic that I have of a CS92. I think the pics of the 72/77s are in paper format, back in UK; I'm in Spain just now.....

[G-Man]

That does look nice. Not sure I'd want to go trail riding on a 125, though. Unless it was all down hill.... :-)

Have a look at Paul's posts on here - he made a gorgeous job of his CS72.

http://www.honda305.com/forums/cs72-fin ... 33320.html

G

[Bob750]

You may have figured this out already, but one thing that early on confused me a bit was that the Illustrated Parts Manual shows all of the steering bearing components, but on two different, non-sequential, assemblies (Front Fork/Front Fender AND Frame Body). I acquired all new races from 2 or 3 different sources and new ball bearings from a member.

1) Did the '61 steering stems have roller bearings top AND bottom, and are they press fit? I realize this may be a dumb question, but if this is the case, then I am missing the '61 bearings and the '65 steering seems to be set up a little differently.

[primer63]

You may have figured this out already, but one thing that early on confused me a bit was that the Illustrated Parts Manual shows all of the steering bearing components, but on two different, non-sequential, assemblies (Front Fork/Front Fender AND Frame Body). I acquired all new races from 2 or 3 different sources and new ball bearings from a member.

1) Did the '61 steering stems have roller bearings top AND bottom, and are they press fit? I realize this may be a dumb question, but if this is the case, then I am missing the '61 bearings and the '65 steering seems to be set up a little differently.

Bob, could you sketch out what you are describing here and post a picture of your sketch. I am traveling on business and all I have to look at is what's in the illustrated manual. I have the races and I believe I have all the ball bearings I need that are in good shape. It's the order of assembly that has me bumfuzzled.

If I'm not mistaken, the lower stem has the curved race on the stem. The bottom of the frame steering tube has the collar (not sure if this is the right term) in it. So, I put 19 ball bearings in the collar held in by grease and slide the steering stem upward into the frame tube. Three parts bottom to top.....race, bearings, collar?

On the top assembly, do any of the steering damper parts intermingle with the order of the top bearings and races. I don't think it does. The shade tree engineer in me says no but, this is my first reassembly and I'm not confident in my assumption. I'll try and sketch out myself and see if I can show what I am talking about.