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Post by jensen » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:34 am

Hi,

If the front fork has changed in your bike I would check the frame (is it straight ?)

Jensen
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Frame

Post by jbrownmxr » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:15 pm

Frame is straight. I got the cylinder and cylinder head off today. While waiting for parts Ill be CLEANING the lower end and chassis up. Pics to follow.

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JIS vs Metric

Post by jbrownmxr » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:33 pm

Enlighten me, what is the difference? I'm replacing with all button head Cap screws as these JIS heads suck. Also, most of the side case screws are the JIS (looks a lot like Phillips to me), the thread pitch is a standard M6X1.0. What gives, I thought JIS was a different pitch. Also, there are some M5s on side cases and starter. All I could find was 0.8 pitch, these appear finer.

"When the going gets weird, the weird go pro." H.S. Thompson.....

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JIS

Post by conbs » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:56 pm

I understand that JIS are the same as ISO except for 3, 4, 5 and 12 mm. If I have my information correct the JIS pitches are as follows:

3mm is .6 pitch vs .5 pitch for ISO
4mm is .75 pitch vs .7 pitch for ISO
5mm is .9 pitch vs .8 pitch for ISO
12mm is 1.5 pitch vs 1.25 pitch for ISO

The heads look like Phillips, but JIS heads are different and reportedly designed that way to help eliminate "cam out" where the screwdriver tip fits the head - if you use the right JIS screw drivers on them. If you try to use a regular phillips screw driver on a JIS head you will cam it out more often than not.

If you get a good JIS screwdriver, you will find the JIS screws are designed pretty well.

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JIS =GAY

Post by jbrownmxr » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:52 pm

Alas a "solution." Harbor Freight, that bastion of Chinese throw away tools had a tap and die set for the now obsolete "old" JIS standard. So, I was able to re-thread an M5 from a 0.8 to a 0.9.

I can hear it now from my fellow wretched wrenches, "But Doc, you can't re-thread from fine to coarse!" And to that Id say...you're right! But, for a few precious turns of the wrench they hold nicely. So, the nightmare is becoming a bit more dreamy.

That's all for now....


JB

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JIS taps

Post by conbs » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:08 pm

What is the item number for the Harbor Freight JIS tap set?

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Post by Hoosier Tom » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:31 pm

conbs,

It appears to be this one,
http://www.harborfreight.com/40-piece-m ... 39384.html



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