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Featured in PipeBurn.com Magazine!!!!!! - 1966 305 Dream

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Snakeoil
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Post by Snakeoil » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:03 pm

teazer wrote:Really nice. Did you get the nickle parts clear powder coated? Nickle absorbs moisture worse than chrome and has to be polished and protected.

I have a nickle plated TZ frame and it needs to be stripped and mechanically polished before it's replated and clear coated.
The problem with nickel plating is the nickle is more noble than the steel that is plated. This means the steel becomes the sacrificial member of the pair. If you get a tiny ding in the nickel what will happen is moisture gets to the steel and a pit will grow under the nickel that you will not see until it is very large. This is a major problem with NiCad coated parts in turbines. The Cadmium depletes and leaves the nickel behind. That's when the problems begin.

I have never heard of nickel aborbing moisture. What I think is going on is what I described above. Nickel electro-plating may have porosity and that could be the problem. Electroless nickel does not seem to have a porosity problem.

Teazer, your TZ frame probably has tiny dings all over from being hit with debris from the track. Those dings have resulted in tiny rust pits under the surface as described above. The steel has rusted underneath and this is why the frame has to be properly polished/acid cleaned to remove any rust prior to replating.

regards,
Rob

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Post by Sascha » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:17 am

Woah, heavy read... Thanks Rob! Youre the man when it comes to nickle.
Snakeoil wrote:
teazer wrote:Really nice. Did you get the nickle parts clear powder coated? Nickle absorbs moisture worse than chrome and has to be polished and protected.

I have a nickle plated TZ frame and it needs to be stripped and mechanically polished before it's replated and clear coated.
The problem with nickel plating is the nickle is more noble than the steel that is plated. This means the steel becomes the sacrificial member of the pair. If you get a tiny ding in the nickel what will happen is moisture gets to the steel and a pit will grow under the nickel that you will not see until it is very large. This is a major problem with NiCad coated parts in turbines. The Cadmium depletes and leaves the nickel behind. That's when the problems begin.

I have never heard of nickel aborbing moisture. What I think is going on is what I described above. Nickel electro-plating may have porosity and that could be the problem. Electroless nickel does not seem to have a porosity problem.

Teazer, your TZ frame probably has tiny dings all over from being hit with debris from the track. Those dings have resulted in tiny rust pits under the surface as described above. The steel has rusted underneath and this is why the frame has to be properly polished/acid cleaned to remove any rust prior to replating.

regards,
Rob

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Post by Sascha » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:20 am

After I got through my clutch problem with Loud Mouse, I got to it and wired the brake light up... Check it out, here are some pics...
-Sascha
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Post by brewsky » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:28 am

Unique!
Old radio mike?
66 dream, 78 cb750k, 02fz1, 09 wing

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Post by Sascha » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:27 am

Yeah its an oollld radio mic... bingo!
;)
brewsky wrote:Unique!
Old radio mike?

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Post by Snakeoil » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:43 am

Sasha,

I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of customizing vintage bikes. When I first saw the pic of your red Dream and saw that you were going to customize it, it upset me a little. But I have to say that you are doing some neat stuff to this bike. That old microphone is a very novel idea. You might consider making custom tank badges to replace the OEM badges. Clean lens will let you make just about anything on a computer and do a color print to put behind the lenses.

What's next, a turbo?

regards,
Rob

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Post by Sascha » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:48 am

Hey SnakeOil...

I appreciate you openmindedness with this build... I feel similar to you for the most part (I have a few old ones) but this was something I have been wanting to explore for fun and I thought I would pull the trigger on making something very unique and fun to look at.

Im glad you like the way it has turned out regardless of it being farther from stock.

I will be getting some high res images made and will post em up so you can see the finished product! As for the badges, I have considered it but havent managed to find the time to CNC them yet... Any ideas as to what should go on them? Im open to suggestions!

Haha - you are allowed one cheap shot and the turbo was it! ;)

-Sascha

Snakeoil wrote:Sasha,

I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of customizing vintage bikes. When I first saw the pic of your red Dream and saw that you were going to customize it, it upset me a little. But I have to say that you are doing some neat stuff to this bike. That old microphone is a very novel idea. You might consider making custom tank badges to replace the OEM badges. Clean lens will let you make just about anything on a computer and do a color print to put behind the lenses.

What's next, a turbo?

regards,
Rob

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