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Loudo
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Inching ahead

Post by Loudo » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:12 am

I had ordered and received a NOS chain from eBay retailer TAS...installed it today along with performing a thorough cleaning of the R side crankcase cover and components. Feel a little silly about my questions prior to disassembly but I've taken a couple of things apart over the years and then forgot how I specifically told myself how to remember how it went back together. Did I mention the BB pistol I took apart in 1975 just to see how it worked? My advice to you is never disassemble a BB pistol.

Also cleaned and reinstalled the drive sprocket along with a new oil seal. Used a small amount of Hondabond around the seal.

Attached is a photo of the much cleaner crankcase cover showing the crack. The bushing is still intact and apparently doing its job so I don't plan on doing anything about the crack as long as my starter motor still works. Let's see if I can get a spark plug or two to set fire to some gas before I get all carried away with other stuff.

Also I've attached a photo of the existing drive sprocket. I agree with advice previously given to replace the chain and both sprockets but this sprocket (16T) looks almost new. I don't see any wear at all...maybe it was recently replaced. The rear sprocket on the other hand looks like a martial arts throwing star.

So I'll try to troubleshoot my starting problems tomorrow.

I note a complete CL77 on Seattle Craigslist today for $1,000 (or less) which would seem to be a good deal but I have my hands full with the one I've got.
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LOUD MOUSE
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Re: Inching ahead

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:24 am

Now I see your crack.
Ya may want to JB WELD it for sure. ......................lm

Loudo wrote:I had ordered and received a NOS chain from eBay retailer TAS...installed it today along with performing a thorough cleaning of the R side crankcase cover and components. Feel a little silly about my questions prior to disassembly but I've taken a couple of things apart over the years and then forgot how I specifically told myself how to remember how it went back together. Did I mention the BB pistol I took apart in 1975 just to see how it worked? My advice to you is never disassemble a BB pistol.

Also cleaned and reinstalled the drive sprocket along with a new oil seal. Used a small amount of Hondabond around the seal.

Attached is a photo of the much cleaner crankcase cover showing the crack. The bushing is still intact and apparently doing its job so I don't plan on doing anything about the crack as long as my starter motor still works. Let's see if I can get a spark plug or two to set fire to some gas before I get all carried away with other stuff.

Also I've attached a photo of the existing drive sprocket. I agree with advice previously given to replace the chain and both sprockets but this sprocket (16T) looks almost new. I don't see any wear at all...maybe it was recently replaced. The rear sprocket on the other hand looks like a martial arts throwing star.

So I'll try to troubleshoot my starting problems tomorrow.

I note a complete CL77 on Seattle Craigslist today for $1,000 (or less) which would seem to be a good deal but I have my hands full with the one I've got.
RIDE IT DON'T HIDE IT!

Loudo
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Nothin's easy

Post by Loudo » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:21 pm

I trundled on over to the NAPA shop. Picked up some JB Weld and whatnot. Forgot to bring my crankcase cover to talk about the grease fittings. I described what I needed, even whispered the secret code words "Toyota pickup 1987" (Ed) to no effect. But he took me over the the grease fitting area and gave me what was called a "needle point adapter" ...photo attached. The end was covered with a rubber cap so my assumption there was some kind of needle under there and so I was in business.

Or not.

I got home and found "needle point" should more appropriately be called "tapered end" because this thing is useless for getting grease into my bike. I'll keep looking.

Cleaned the crankcase crack with lacquer thinner and blew it out with an air hose, repaired it with JB Weld. Trying to secure a little time tomorrow to finish putting it back together and do some electrical troubleshooting.
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LOUD MOUSE
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Re: Nothin's easy

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:18 pm

I have one of those and have used it. ..............lm
Loudo wrote:I trundled on over to the NAPA shop. Picked up some JB Weld and whatnot. Forgot to bring my crankcase cover to talk about the grease fittings. I described what I needed, even whispered the secret code words "Toyota pickup 1987" (Ed) to no effect. But he took me over the the grease fitting area and gave me what was called a "needle point adapter" ...photo attached. The end was covered with a rubber cap so my assumption there was some kind of needle under there and so I was in business.

Or not.

I got home and found "needle point" should more appropriately be called "tapered end" because this thing is useless for getting grease into my bike. I'll keep looking.

Cleaned the crankcase crack with lacquer thinner and blew it out with an air hose, repaired it with JB Weld. Trying to secure a little time tomorrow to finish putting it back together and do some electrical troubleshooting.
RIDE IT DON'T HIDE IT!

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Post by e3steve » Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:56 pm

Loudo, in your shoes I would seek out a snug-fitting piece of tube to fit over that cracked bush boss, cut off a suitably sized ring of said tube and JB Weld it over the boss. Getting a sufficiently strong weld on a piece of 45-year-old cast alloy that's been oil- and grease-contaminated is a bit of a tall order; it will spit like a cornered wildcat and will perforate. They crop up on eBay quite frequently, and the casing is a piece of p155 to change out -- you just need to drop the r/h muffler & peg/pedal ass'y.

That front sprocket looks pretty new and good-to-go.

I picked up a lube kit from a guy on eBay; it includes a little grease gun with a tip that fits the Honda nipples a treat. Western Hills had the nipples:

FITTING (A.45)
96201-30001

they were cents apiece!

G'luck!

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welding the cases

Post by eyedragaknee » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:40 am

I have a couple sitting here for a 305 Dream if you need one.

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Post by davomoto » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:46 am

IF YOU AREN'T EVER GOING TO USE THE KICKER, YOU MAY BE FINE WITYH THE jb WELD. iF YOUR BATTERY OR STARTER GOES DEAD, AND YOU START KICKING IT, WELL HERE'S A PIC OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COVER. I HAVE TWO THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THIS ONE, AND MY BUDDY DEEZ HAS ONE AS WELL. THAT BUSHING IS BAKEOLITE, AS I SAID.

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