30W Non-detergent - Or is there something better?

Spargett · Post by **Spargett** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:14 am

I've read on here that everyone recommends the 30W Non-detergent oil. But is there another recommendation that might be better but cost a tad more?

I'm not worried about the extra investment. Any thoughts on synthetic? Thanks!

Greggie-e · Post by **Greggie-e** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:41 am

I had a heap of trouble getting a non-detergent 30 weight oil for my bike.

Got on the phone to Penrite and they list their "classic light" as the oil for the CA77 http://www.penrite.com.au/html/s02_arti ... _top_id=55
this replaces the straight 30 weight oil.
I believe it is called "Classic HPR30" in the US

call them, they should be able to tell you which oil to use for your local temperatures.
Toll Free No. (800) 306 7008
http://www.penrite.us/nextpage.php?navlink=products

This is a modern oil made to replicate the old oils characteristics, with a few improvements.

Cheers,
Greg

Spargett · Post by **Spargett** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:27 am

Funny enough, I was able to get 30W Non-Detergent from AutoZone here in the US. It's their own brand oil. I figured, "hmm, can't hurt to ask". Guy said "Yup, its right here in the back". I bought two quarts.

Great resource, but I imagine shipping oil from Australia to the US being rather steep.

Greggie-e wrote:I had a heap of trouble getting a non-detergent 30 weight oil for my bike.

Got on the phone to Penrite and they list their "classic light" as the oil for the CA77 http://www.penrite.com.au/html/s02_arti ... _top_id=55
this replaces the straight 30 weight oil.
I believe it is called "Classic HPR30" in the US

call them, they should be able to tell you which oil to use for your local temperatures.
Toll Free No. (800) 306 7008
http://www.penrite.us/nextpage.php?navlink=products

This is a modern oil made to replicate the old oils characteristics, with a few improvements.

Cheers,
Greg

Greggie-e · Post by **Greggie-e** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:50 am

the Restoration Supply company
15182-B Highland Valley Rd.
Escondido, CA 92025

Order Desk (800) 306-7008
Other Inquiries (760) 741-4014
Fax (760) 739-8843 info@restorationstuff.com

http://www.restorationstuff.com/

stocks Penrite oils if the autozone stuff does not work out.

I tried a few apparent non-detergent "shop brand" oils here in Australia, the clutch always slipped. Penrite was the only one I found to work, probably because I stopped looking I guess...
They were generally described as running in oil.

cheers

Greg

gramey7 · Post by **gramey7** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:18 am

I recently followed Loud Mouse's advice and bought 30 wt non-detergent oil from my local NAPA. It's branded NAPA but is manufactured by Ashland. I think LM's recommendation is based on his reasoning that the centrifugal filter is more effective when using non-detergent oils.

Vince Lupo · Post by **Vince Lupo** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:13 pm

Just checked the price on Penrite Classic HPR 30, which is what they recommend you use for all pre-1970 Hondas. $ 12.00 per litre ($ 45.00 for 5 litres) -- and is that also changing it every 1000 miles? How much different will this oil be than just regular old 30w non-detergent?

sotxbill · Post by **sotxbill** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:49 am

Not to start an oil war, There is a whole NEW specification for japanese motorcycle oil, specifically for bikes with wet clutches. These oils include detergent oils that work well with our bikes. Please go look up the jaso motorcycle oil specs... Oil has changed 100fold since the 1960's. even for motorcycles that have wet clutches.. and yes the small new bikes still dont have oil filters.. So its time to get rid of rumors, wives tales, superstition, and move forward to the new century.. Things HAVE changed in 50 years..

Why are we ignoring thousands of tests and specifications by honda and others..