engine oil

[roadrunner]

thanks again LOUD MOUSE that make's thing's more clear with the charts.i'm glad your there cause i know i'll be asking more questions.

[LOUD MOUSE]

That's how I read it here.
Like I told the feller that's the oil I use and no where do I say YOU "MUST" USE IT TOO!
Of course because I have an opinion and don't bend to that other person I must be corrected and join his opinion.
Not going to happen here for sure.
Something I saw is that the miles/KM are for the 250 Scrambler and 305 Scrambler.
What with the 250 using a 15/40 sprocket arrangement and the 305 using a 15/36 arrangement you can bet the 250 will have more run/rev time than the 305 and it uses the same maintenance schedule???? ....................lm

Yep - agreed the 4800 is a typo and should be 1800.

From your table and assuming the black dot and white dot means the same as the CB77 manual (i.e. black means dealer and white dot means owner) I read.....

Dealer Oil change at 150 miles
User or sales shop oil change at 600 miles
User or sales shop oil change at 1200 miles
Dealer Oil change at 1800 miles
User OC @ 2400
User OC @ 3000
User OC @ 3600
Dealer OC @ 4200
User OC @ 4800
User OC @ 5400
User OC @ 6000
Dealer OC @6600
User OC @7200
User OC @7800
User OC @ 8400
Dealer OC @ 9000

G

I am including the data I have which as I look at now I gave numbers which I though were in Miles and a closer look tells me the numbers were in KM.
So the numbers I give are in KM and for the CL72/77 engines. (BELOW)
Under the KM numbers are Mile numbers.
Miles start at 150 and end at 9,000 on the Periodic inspection chart.
There is an error at 3,000 KM which shows 4800 and near as I can tell should be (1800).
As I read this info I see oil changes and all other inspection items are at a 2,400 mile interval after break-in.
I've seen yours and here is what we here in the USA were issued. ...............lm

I told ya so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't think of any information from HONDA which mentions 300 miles as the mileage to change the engine oil every time.
Schedule is 300, 3,000, 7,000, 11,000. 15,000 looks to me like once the engine is Broken-In 4,000 miles is the norm.
The feller needs to get his information on this correct.
Do you think you will ride your bike 4,000 miles a year?
Some but very few bikes are ridden 10,000 miles after a rebuilt as the owner looses interest..
That feller goes on a OIL TY RAID every time it is mentioned.
Check out his PM for valve size information also.
Very interesting. ! RIGHT JERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. ..................lm

Thxs Masonmart,for all that great information.it did seem strange to me that in 50 years the oil industry hadn't improved considerably.i live in a very hot part of Arizona in the summer month's it can reach temps in 120's so it makes sense to use a multi.grade oil and change the oil less often instead of every 300 mile's.thanks again to all of you for your help.

[G-Man]

There are interesting variations among various Honda models of the same era.

Dreams have 2000 mile oil changes and Cub (CA100) has 1000 miles.

I used to change the oil in my CB400F every 1000 miles (recommended 1500) and did 14,000 miles in the first year. That's more than one oil change per month.... :-)

I changed the oil in the corner of a field in France once on a 2000 mile vacation.....

G

That's how I read it here.
Like I told the feller that's the oil I use and no where do I say YOU "MUST" USE IT TOO!
Of course because I have an opinion and don't bend to that other person I must be corrected and join his opinion.
Not going to happen here for sure.
Something I saw is that the miles/KM are for the 250 Scrambler and 305 Scrambler.
What with the 250 using a 15/40 sprocket arrangement and the 305 using a 15/36 arrangement you can bet the 250 will have more run/rev time than the 305 and it uses the same maintenance schedule???? ....................lm

Yep - agreed the 4800 is a typo and should be 1800.

From your table and assuming the black dot and white dot means the same as the CB77 manual (i.e. black means dealer and white dot means owner) I read.....

Dealer Oil change at 150 miles
User or sales shop oil change at 600 miles
User or sales shop oil change at 1200 miles
Dealer Oil change at 1800 miles
User OC @ 2400
User OC @ 3000
User OC @ 3600
Dealer OC @ 4200
User OC @ 4800
User OC @ 5400
User OC @ 6000
Dealer OC @6600
User OC @7200
User OC @7800
User OC @ 8400
Dealer OC @ 9000

G

I am including the data I have which as I look at now I gave numbers which I though were in Miles and a closer look tells me the numbers were in KM.
So the numbers I give are in KM and for the CL72/77 engines. (BELOW)
Under the KM numbers are Mile numbers.
Miles start at 150 and end at 9,000 on the Periodic inspection chart.
There is an error at 3,000 KM which shows 4800 and near as I can tell should be (1800).
As I read this info I see oil changes and all other inspection items are at a 2,400 mile interval after break-in.
I've seen yours and here is what we here in the USA were issued. ...............lm

I told ya so!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't think of any information from HONDA which mentions 300 miles as the mileage to change the engine oil every time.
Schedule is 300, 3,000, 7,000, 11,000. 15,000 looks to me like once the engine is Broken-In 4,000 miles is the norm.
The feller needs to get his information on this correct.
Do you think you will ride your bike 4,000 miles a year?
Some but very few bikes are ridden 10,000 miles after a rebuilt as the owner looses interest..
That feller goes on a OIL TY RAID every time it is mentioned.
Check out his PM for valve size information also.
Very interesting. ! RIGHT JERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. ..................lm

Thxs Masonmart,for all that great information.it did seem strange to me that in 50 years the oil industry hadn't improved considerably.i live in a very hot part of Arizona in the summer month's it can reach temps in 120's so it makes sense to use a multi.grade oil and change the oil less often instead of every 300 mile's.thanks again to all of you for your help.

[roadrunner]

well there's one thing i have learned is i have a lot to learn.ha G-man i guess if your going to have to change your oil a field in France sounds beautiful to this yank ha ha.

[brewsky]

I changed the oil in the corner of a field in France once on a 2000 mile vacation.....

G

quote]

Here's hoping the statute of limitations has passed on the violation!

[G-Man]

Brewsky

They're still happily tidying up the mess that we all made 40 years before that......

G

I changed the oil in the corner of a field in France once on a 2000 mile vacation.....

G

quote]

Here's hoping the statute of limitations has passed on the violation!

[brewsky]

Brewsky

They're still happily tidying up the mess that we all made 40 years before that......

G

I changed the oil in the corner of a field in France once on a 2000 mile vacation.....

G

quote]

Here's hoping the statute of limitations has passed on the violation!

Yep,

The recycling program in my neighborhood consisted of re-purposing used pcb-laden transformer oil as dust palliative on the dirt roads in front of the houses!..... GENIUS!