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goudreignet
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Post by goudreignet » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:12 pm

steve

here is a detailed picture of the rear blinker

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You’re quite right about the fact that it can not be a dream blinker handle bar consol
I can tell you it is not a CB77 because it has an extra black and white wire to the start button
Maybe it is from a CB160 or CB450 who knows

fred

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Post by e3steve » Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:27 pm

Thanks Fred. So, it looks like you found & fitted OEM trafficators? They look like a perfect, factory installation.

To my knowledge (which isn't always correct!) the winkers were fitted to some CP models, particularly destined for Germany & Canada. I'd reckon that's the model for which your switch ass'y and the winkers were originally destined.

The winkers' cabling within the harness became standard, apparently, on some harnesses.

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Post by goudreignet » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:43 am

steve,

the winkers, aft winker mounts , and the handlebar switch came from Thailand
i presume that these where designated for the Asian market

the blinker relays i have used is a modern Honda item suitable for 10 watt bulbs
pn 38301-GE8-008

i had a dream winker relays nos 40 years old but i would not blink unfortunately

fred

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Post by e3steve » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:45 pm

The possible reason for not blinking could be too low a wattage lamps. The older bi-metal type needs the laminated metal strip to get hot to make it bend and pop away from the contact; it then cools and drops back onto the contact. The cycle restarts and continues. Possibly designed for 2 x 18W or 21W lamps? 2 x 10W might just not draw enough current to heat the laminate.

I'm going to use an electronic flasher when I find my box of junk where I have some 'stored'; my winkers are fine at traffic speeds, but at 60mph it flashes so fast that they look like they're just 'on'. Doesn't happen if I just rev it to 5 or 6K stood still, so it's not voltage. I think it's vibration, so I'll take the unit off its mount and suspend it on some rubber bands to see if that helps. But I still think an electronic unit is the answer.

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Post by goudreignet » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:36 am

the old blink relays had worked but it just stopped blinking
10W is what was stamped on the blinker relays housing ( see pic. )

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i have used 15W bulbs, with out succes

but with the new C90 supercup relais it blinks as it should even with 10W bulbs

fred

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Post by e3steve » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:38 am

Hmmmmm, I see. Bi-metal types are old-tech, these days; strange it's NOS and failed. Sh1t happens!

Nice job of fitting that Supercub relay! Lovely paint, too....

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Post by goudreignet » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:58 am

the paint is actually powder coat with a clear coat
although i had the fuel tank resprayed with a two pack clear coat, because of the bubleyness of the powder coat.

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