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Charging System, Wiring, Lighting
Gorf
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Post by Gorf » Tue May 15, 2012 1:09 pm

cknight wrote:The Rick's Motorsport Electrics stator and regulator/rectifier kit is a good choice. Regards, Chase
Called Rick's. They no longer stock a replacement stator. They are going to call me back with a price to simply rebuild my stock stator.
Jlovvorn wrote:How did you rule out the rectfier?

I bought two aftermaret selinium rectifiers before I realized they were both bad.
I have replaced my rectifier with a modern solid state system that I have verified is working correctly. Everything seems to point to low voltage out of the stator.

Continuity on the stator is ok, but what is highly suspicious is that it is much more of a dead short on one leg then it should be. Especially if I test its impedance and overall reactance. Everything seems to suggest I have shorted windings in the stator. :-( I did not however load up the reluctance in the system to test magnetic field density on the rotor. Someone mentioned it can lose intensity over time.

All things considered, does letting Rick's rebuild the stator seem like a good way to go? And also, if I do have a fading rotor, are those parts available anywhere?

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue May 15, 2012 3:32 pm

Even a shorted wire is not unusual as all the windings are touching each other wire.
Rotor can be weak. .....lm
Gorf wrote:
cknight wrote:The Rick's Motorsport Electrics stator and regulator/rectifier kit is a good choice. Regards, Chase
Called Rick's. They no longer stock a replacement stator. They are going to call me back with a price to simply rebuild my stock stator.
Jlovvorn wrote:How did you rule out the rectfier?

I bought two aftermaret selinium rectifiers before I realized they were both bad.
I have replaced my rectifier with a modern solid state system that I have verified is working correctly. Everything seems to point to low voltage out of the stator.

Continuity on the stator is ok, but what is highly suspicious is that it is much more of a dead short on one leg then it should be. Especially if I test its impedance and overall reactance. Everything seems to suggest I have shorted windings in the stator. :-( I did not however load up the reluctance in the system to test magnetic field density on the rotor. Someone mentioned it can lose intensity over time.

All things considered, does letting Rick's rebuild the stator seem like a good way to go? And also, if I do have a fading rotor, are those parts available anywhere?

Gorf
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Post by Gorf » Tue May 15, 2012 3:34 pm

And the official word, just FYI, is that Rick's will no longer work on these stators.

So, where else can I look to get a new one?

*edit*
Has anyone used either of these places to rewind a stator?
Tim Parrot - http://tpe-usa.com/
RMStator - http://www.rmstator.com

Both claim to be able to rebuild my stator with modern high-temp field coiling. Seems like it would be a good way to go, especially for the prices.

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Post by rzgkane » Tue May 15, 2012 8:09 pm

I doubt it's your stator. More likely the rotor.

Used stators are a dime a dozen. There have been a few new ones on ebay over the past 2-3 months and they were all in the $200 range.
Gorf wrote:And the official word, just FYI, is that Rick's will no longer work on these stators.

So, where else can I look to get a new one?

*edit*
Has anyone used either of these places to rewind a stator?
Tim Parrot - http://tpe-usa.com/
RMStator - http://www.rmstator.com

Both claim to be able to rebuild my stator with modern high-temp field coiling. Seems like it would be a good way to go, especially for the prices.

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Post by cknight » Wed May 16, 2012 7:23 am

Dennis Kirk still lists the Rick's kit in stock. Regards, Chase

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Post by cknight » Thu May 17, 2012 1:06 pm

I had some CB77 stators rewound by Kevin Mayer at Motorcycle Electrical Service in Nederland, CO, 303-258-0213. Very good job. Might want to give him a try. Regards, Chase

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Post by Gorf » Thu May 17, 2012 2:42 pm

rzgkane wrote:I doubt it's your stator. More likely the rotor.
That's fine too. It doesn't change the challenge of this. haha. Rotors seem to be just as much of a pain in the ass to find as well.

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