CL 72 Frame/Engine year

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:10 pm

PICS?. ...........lm

olebmw wrote:The bike is missing the headlight/speedo, skid plate and foot peg assembly, chain guard, front fender. The rear has been cut off near the frame loop, and probably more. The air tubes are there. Are the early one different? Should the foot pegs be steel folding, any difference from later steel models? Is the only difference in the headlight the lack of a neutral light and the speedometer should say Honda Motors? The coils are mounted, one in front of the back of the frame brace tube and one behind it. I think I read somewhere that the skip plate on the early bikes didn't have a recessed area around the mounting bolts, any other differences? Any other early differences you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated. It will be a few days before I can send pictures.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:11 pm

WRONG!
NO CL72 shipped to the US Had Round Bowl Carbs. ...................lm

sixtiescycle wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:How about you offer some pics of the skid plate, carb air intake tubes, speedo face, rider foot pegs and coils. ...................lm

olebmw wrote:Does that mean it is the 32nd one made in 62??

And carbs themselves, should be round bowl type.

sixtiescycle · Post by **sixtiescycle** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:12 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:WRONG!
NO CL72 shipped to the US Had Round Bowl Carbs. ...................lm

Hmm, I think I said "should" and didn't specify country. I have a set PW22's round bowl non-powerjet, sure seems to me the only likely candidate these could have come from would have been a '62 CL72. I didn't have the bike, only an early type1 CL head to which these were attached. Interesting the early shop manual shows PW22 powerjet carbs, you can see the hose hooked the the jet also a CB type petcock and band type clamps for the air cleaner rubbers. Most likely a proto-type model. Have had conversations with a couple people interested in my carbs. One fellow had a one bad round bowl on his '62 and was looking for a replacement.

Will be interesting to see the pic's.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:16 pm

You will find a identifier number on the front mount top.
CL72 may be there if not the carb could be for a 160?

Read your statement and I did mention country.
(And carbs themselves, should be round bowl type.) YOU>
A CL250?

I'll stand by "No CL72 shipped to the US had round bowl carbs."

The CL72 Shop Manual has PICS of engine parts never on the engines/bikes shipped to the US.

That said I bought many years ago a carb which has a totally different machined front and is round bowl and has CL72 but came in a box.
It is a left side carb and may be a replacement after production but did not Come On a A Engine to the US market.
I learned many years back Not To Pay a Lot Of Attention To The Drawing in the parts manuals.
Ever see a single carb head on a CB72/ CB77/ CP77 PARTS BOOK PAGE?. (issue Sept.20, 1965)..................lm

sixtiescycle wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:WRONG!
NO CL72 shipped to the US Had Round Bowl Carbs. ...................lm
Hmm, I think I said "should" and didn't specify country. I have a set PW22's round bowl non-powerjet, sure seems to me the only likely candidate these could have come from would have been a '62 CL72. I didn't have the bike, only an early type1 CL head to which these were attached. Interesting the early shop manual shows PW22 powerjet carbs, you can see the hose hooked the the jet also a CB type petcock and band type clamps for the air cleaner rubbers. Most likely a proto-type model. Have had conversations with a couple people interested in my carbs. One fellow had a one bad round bowl on his '62 and was looking for a replacement.

Will be interesting to see the pic's.

G-Man · Post by **G-Man** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:08 am

That page always makes me smile.. :-)

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Ever see a single carb head on a CB72/ CB77/ CP77 PARTS BOOK PAGE?. (issue Sept.20, 1965)..................lm

sixtiescycle wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:WRONG!
NO CL72 shipped to the US Had Round Bowl Carbs. ...................lm
Hmm, I think I said "should" and didn't specify country. I have a set PW22's round bowl non-powerjet, sure seems to me the only likely candidate these could have come from would have been a '62 CL72. I didn't have the bike, only an early type1 CL head to which these were attached. Interesting the early shop manual shows PW22 powerjet carbs, you can see the hose hooked the the jet also a CB type petcock and band type clamps for the air cleaner rubbers. Most likely a proto-type model. Have had conversations with a couple people interested in my carbs. One fellow had a one bad round bowl on his '62 and was looking for a replacement.

Will be interesting to see the pic's.

sixtiescycle · Post by **sixtiescycle** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:05 am

LOUD MOUSE wrote:You will find a identifier number on the front mount top.
CL72 may be there if not the carb could be for a 160?

Read your statement and I did mention country.
(And carbs themselves, should be round bowl type.) YOU>
A CL250?

I'll stand by "No CL72 shipped to the US had round bowl carbs."

The CL72 Shop Manual has PICS of engine parts never on the engines/bikes shipped to the US.

That said I bought many years ago a carb which has a totally different machined front and is round bowl and has CL72 but came in a box.
It is a left side carb and may be a replacement after production but did not Come On a A Engine to the US market.
I learned many years back Not To Pay a Lot Of Attention To The Drawing in the parts manuals.
Ever see a single carb head on a CB72/ CB77/ CP77 PARTS BOOK PAGE?. (issue Sept.20, 1965)..................lm

Yes "you" did say country, "I" did not.

I know of the number you are referring to.
These carbs are not marked, they are not one, but a pair, right and left. Were mounted to an early CL72 type 1 head and used. Pictures to follow.

I'll agree on the parts book "drawings". I'll also agree on the shop manual pictures.

With this pair of carbs in my hands I'll keep an open mind.

LOUD MOUSE · Post by **LOUD MOUSE** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:42 am

I have the same L/S carb (flat right and left angles at the front not smooth round like the other carbs of that era.
Mine is stamped CL72.
Also take a look in your shop manual at pages 118' 119, and 120.
Also page 38 for a good laugh.
May we see a pic of the frame number?
Any chance you have a CL250???
Did you notice the black tube at the top rear which was installed on the CB72 power jet carbs?. .................lm

sixtiescycle wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:You will find a identifier number on the front mount top.
CL72 may be there if not the carb could be for a 160?

Read your statement and I did mention country.
(And carbs themselves, should be round bowl type.) YOU>
A CL250?

I'll stand by "No CL72 shipped to the US had round bowl carbs."

The CL72 Shop Manual has PICS of engine parts never on the engines/bikes shipped to the US.

That said I bought many years ago a carb which has a totally different machined front and is round bowl and has CL72 but came in a box.
It is a left side carb and may be a replacement after production but did not Come On a A Engine to the US market.
I learned many years back Not To Pay a Lot Of Attention To The Drawing in the parts manuals.
Ever see a single carb head on a CB72/ CB77/ CP77 PARTS BOOK PAGE?. (issue Sept.20, 1965)..................lm
Yes "you" did say country, "I" did not.

I know of the number you are referring to.
These carbs are not marked, they are not one, but a pair, right and left. Were mounted to an early CL72 type 1 head and used. Pictures to follow.

I'll agree on the parts book "drawings". I'll also agree on the shop manual pictures.

With this pair of carbs in my hands I'll keep an open mind.