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jleewebb
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other end

Post by jleewebb » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:28 pm

I think I must have misunderstood original poster...this applies to sprocket on starter motor itself, and planetary reduction gears behind it...sorry if I confused anyone...
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Re: other end

Post by rzgkane » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:02 pm

jleewebb wrote:I think I must have misunderstood original poster...this applies to sprocket on starter motor itself, and planetary reduction gears behind it...sorry if I confused anyone...
It still makes little sense, then, because you can remove the starter motor's sprocket and reinstall it without any problems as far as I've experienced.
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Re: starter clutch

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:09 pm

Your two cents won't pay for the parts you recommend.
Although they don't cost a lot why waste money when they are good to use?
Or maybe you will pay for them so the feller can have new ones. ........lm
rzgkane wrote:
brcree wrote:Tom has some new springs on there way to me.....will see if this quits things down.
If you are going through the hassle of replacing the starter clutch springs, you should sure as hell spend the other $10-15 and replace the rollers and cups while you're in there, especially since you can buy them from your local HONDA dealer. Just my two cents.

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Re: starter clutch

Post by rzgkane » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:17 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Your two cents won't pay for the parts you recommend.
Although they don't cost a lot why waste money when they are good to use?
Or maybe you will pay for them so the feller can have new ones. ........lm
rzgkane wrote:
brcree wrote:Tom has some new springs on there way to me.....will see if this quits things down.
If you are going through the hassle of replacing the starter clutch springs, you should sure as hell spend the other $10-15 and replace the rollers and cups while you're in there, especially since you can buy them from your local HONDA dealer. Just my two cents.
My worry is that an old cup or roller (because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them?) binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction. If that happens, he will be wishing he had spent the extra few bucks on the additional new parts as he disassembles the right cover again. That's all. To each his own.
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Re: starter clutch

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:31 pm

So you qualify " because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them? binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction".
I'm sure any of this is visible if there and then parts can be ordered.
Any recommendation as to how to clean the area where the springs and caps install?.............lm
rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:Your two cents won't pay for the parts you recommend.
Although they don't cost a lot why waste money when they are good to use?
Or maybe you will pay for them so the feller can have new ones. ........lm
rzgkane wrote:
brcree wrote:Tom has some new springs on there way to me.....will see if this quits things down.
If you are going through the hassle of replacing the starter clutch springs, you should sure as hell spend the other $10-15 and replace the rollers and cups while you're in there, especially since you can buy them from your local HONDA dealer. Just my two cents.
My worry is that an old cup or roller (because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them?) binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction. If that happens, he will be wishing he had spent the extra few bucks on the additional new parts as he disassembles the right cover again. That's all. To each his own.

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Re: starter clutch

Post by rzgkane » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:38 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:So you qualify " because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them? binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction".
I'm sure any of this is visible if there and then parts can be ordered.
Any recommendation as to how to clean the area where the springs and caps install?.............lm
rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:Your two cents won't pay for the parts you recommend.
Although they don't cost a lot why waste money when they are good to use?
Or maybe you will pay for them so the feller can have new ones. ........lm
rzgkane wrote:
brcree wrote:Tom has some new springs on there way to me.....will see if this quits things down.
If you are going through the hassle of replacing the starter clutch springs, you should sure as hell spend the other $10-15 and replace the rollers and cups while you're in there, especially since you can buy them from your local HONDA dealer. Just my two cents.
My worry is that an old cup or roller (because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them?) binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction. If that happens, he will be wishing he had spent the extra few bucks on the additional new parts as he disassembles the right cover again. That's all. To each his own.
I'd use a pipe-cleaner type brush and some WD40 for cleaning the bores where the springs and caps reside. I've seen brushes of this type with light metal fibers in them that would probably do the job quite well. What would you recommend?

In the end it really is a matter of style and budget. I'm the type of person that replaces everything within financial reason if I'm tackling a job just because doing it over stinks. "Financial reason" varies from person to person and from bike to bike.
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Re: starter clutch

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:20 pm

rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:So you qualify " because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them? binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction".
I'm sure any of this is visible if there and then parts can be ordered.
Any recommendation as to how to clean the area where the springs and caps install?.............lm
rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:Your two cents won't pay for the parts you recommend.
Although they don't cost a lot why waste money when they are good to use?
Or maybe you will pay for them so the feller can have new ones. ........lm
rzgkane wrote:
brcree wrote:Tom has some new springs on there way to me.....will see if this quits things down.
If you are going through the hassle of replacing the starter clutch springs, you should sure as hell spend the other $10-15 and replace the rollers and cups while you're in there, especially since you can buy them from your local HONDA dealer. Just my two cents.
My worry is that an old cup or roller (because they've got maybe a little corrosion on them?) binds up here and there causing the clutch with the new springs to malfunction. If that happens, he will be wishing he had spent the extra few bucks on the additional new parts as he disassembles the right cover again. That's all. To each his own.

Now we are into it.
Identify any bad parts.
Clean the others and order the parts you actually need?. ..........lm

I'd use a pipe-cleaner type brush and some WD40 for cleaning the bores where the springs and caps reside. I've seen brushes of this type with light metal fibers in them that would probably do the job quite well. What would you recommend?

In the end it really is a matter of style and budget. I'm the type of person that replaces everything within financial reason if I'm tackling a job just because doing it over stinks. "Financial reason" varies from person to person and from bike to bike.
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