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Help - Shift Drum Orientation Post Case Assembly

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Help - Shift Drum Orientation Post Case Assembly

Post by Spargett » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:32 am

I just reassembled the cases and I'm not sure if I've messed up or not.

Everything shifted smoothly when the cases were apart, but I failed to pay attention to where the drum was orientated when I sealed and bolted everything together.

I tried finding neutral post assembly of the cases, but the dogs aren't lining up anymore after fiddling with the drum (which I know is normal just can't roll the bike and line em up).

I'm not sure if I've actually made a mistake or if I put it all back together it'll be fine once i can roll and shift around.

The first photo is how the the drum was orientated in neutral when I took it apart (but I can't get the screws back in that way and the dogs are preventing me from shifting). The second photo is where it wants to lie right now.

Hopefully this is an easy question to answer, I tend to get lost in my own abstract thinking sometimes. I may be over thinking it here. Thank you in advance to anyone that can shed some light.

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Post by davomoto » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:12 pm

Scott,

You should be able to turn the trans shaft, and rotate the shift drum so you can get the bolts in. If you can't turn the drum, something is amiss.

Davo

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Post by Spargett » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:29 pm

Hey Davo,

I can rotate the drum around, but the transmission shaft won't move by hand, which I believe because the bike is in gear (top end is still assembled). I can't shift it to neutral because after shifting the gears around with the case closed, I can see the two dog's teeth have found themselves right on top of each other, which I know can happen.

I'm wondering if it will be fine once I get in the bike and shift around. Or did I somehow miss a step my not making sure the drum was aligned in a certain way?

Long question short... is there only one way to do this and I'm making up a missing step with drum orientation?
davomoto wrote:Scott,

You should be able to turn the trans shaft, and rotate the shift drum so you can get the bolts in. If you can't turn the drum, something is amiss.

Davo
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Post by Spargett » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:25 pm

SOLVED.

I spoke with Ed on the phone and after going through a few things, it turns out all I did was tighten the 17mm bolt (circled) without aligning the kickstart shaft to accept the bolt's end, which locks it in place.

Without aligning each to accept each other you essentially pinch everything in place with that bolt. Going to add a note in my Bill Silver manual about this.

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Post by Spargett » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:26 pm

P.S. Ed refers to this bolt as the "Jesus bolt". As in, "Jesus I did it again!".

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Post by davomoto » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:12 pm

Right on Scott, glad you and Ed figured it out!

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Post by Spargett » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:29 pm

I went back and read the Silver manual and he does mention this part. For whatever reason it slipped past me. I think I missed exactly which "kickstart stopper bolt" he was referring to. "Larger 17mm bolt on the lower arm" would have been a nice description to have.

Or it just could have been long hours and too much carb cleaner/degreaser in a tight space!

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