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Fuel level cb77 float bowl

Fuel System: Gas (Petrol) tanks, Carburators
LOUD MOUSE
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Re: re:

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:29 pm

If the tube isn't leaking fuel how may I assume it will give a fuel level in the bowl.
I missed DRAIN as I was thinking brass tube at the bottom not the screws. .....lm

Mike Mullins wrote:I think he's referring to running clear tubing from the drains up the sides of the float bowls which would give a visible level of the fuel in the float bowl. (am I making sense ?) This however would not tell you what the float level is: it would show if the fuel levels in the bowls are the same or not. This is my understanding of the post.
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Gees

Post by chrisnoel » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:37 pm

When I say I turned the screw in 1 turn from two I mean that it is now set 1 turn out and is leaner than initial setting of two.

Anyways, it is well known that setting the float height dry is only good for getting in the ball park. If no one here knows where the final fuel height is supposed to be then I'm asking the wrong crowd.

This is accomplished by temping a tube to the bottom of the bowl and turning it up so the fuel doesn't run out on the ground. The fuel in the tube is the same level as the fuel in the bowl and you can then do final adjustments to your floats. Some mechanics even do this while the motorcycle is running rather than engine off to get a more accurate result but I haven't gotten that picky yet. I'll have to ask elsewhere for this desired level it seems.

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Post by Hoosier Tom » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:01 pm

Turning the air screw to the right (in) richens the mixture, turning it to the left (out) leans the mixture. By the way you are describing your initial rich setting at 2 turns out, if it is now only 1 turn out your idle mixture would be even richer.
I've got original Honda service manuals and even they note to go by the float height as the fuel height in the bowl is to difficult to measure. Their exact phrasing under fuel level adjustment is, "However, since the fuel level cannot be measured easily, it is recommended to determine by height of float". I think you may be on your own trying to ascertain the optimum level for your bike.

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Re: Gees

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:38 am

<<<<< I'll have to ask elsewhere for this desired level it seems.>>>>>
As we merely set the float as recommended by HONDA (don't need a couple of special assemblies) and don't care about that level because the correct setting of the float will determine that level so we don't have the answer to that request.
Have a safe day. ..............lm


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chrisnoel wrote:When I say I turned the screw in 1 turn from two I mean that it is now set 1 turn out and is leaner than initial setting of two.

Anyways, it is well known that setting the float height dry is only good for getting in the ball park. If no one here knows where the final fuel height is supposed to be then I'm asking the wrong crowd.

This is accomplished by temping a tube to the bottom of the bowl and turning it up so the fuel doesn't run out on the ground. The fuel in the tube is the same level as the fuel in the bowl and you can then do final adjustments to your floats. Some mechanics even do this while the motorcycle is running rather than engine off to get a more accurate result but I haven't gotten that picky yet. I'll have to ask elsewhere for this desired level it seems.

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Post by malcolmgb » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:05 pm

I have replied further to this because I found your change of subject heading to 'Gees' a little rude. You appear to add comments without putting thought into what you write.
When I say I turned the screw in 1 turn from two I mean that it is now set 1 turn out and is leaner than initial setting of two.
You said yourself "air screw" by turning the screw in you allow less air to mix with the fuel from the jet, less air + same fuel = richer mixture
Anyways, it is well known that setting the float height dry is only good for getting in the ball park. If no one here knows where the final fuel height is supposed to be then I'm asking the wrong crowd.
Doesn't appear to be that well known here and if you believe that Honda after fitting carbs that have had floats bench set then get someone to start readjusting float heights after production you have a strange understanding of a production line process. The crowd you need to speak to are Honda themselves.
Some mechanics even do this while the motorcycle is running rather than engine off to get a more accurate result but I haven't gotten that picky yet.
How is this more accurate? the needle valve and float will keep the fuel at the same level whether the engine is running or not.
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